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Caldwell and Jorgeson Dawn Wall El Cap Project
Wendy
19-Jan-2015
8:39:33 PM
On 19/01/2015 ajfclark wrote:

>If I was thinking of stuff that I think aligned with dawn wall it would
>be things like those guys kayaking to New Zealand or something. Seems unlikely
>and (to outsiders) pointless and dangerous.
>
Kayaking to NZ is pointless and dangerous. Playing football is also pointless and dangerous. Climbing the Dawn Wall on the other hand is merely pointless:) I am happy to indulge in pointless activity myself.
bentobox
19-Jan-2015
10:08:42 PM
On 16/01/2015 ambyeok wrote:
http://www.
>bc.net.au/news/2015-01-15/rosewarne-el-capitan-el-presidente-and-el-testosterone/6019324 >>
>

This is absolutely mind-boggling! It reeks of someone who has nothing to say but desperately needs some attention to remind people that she exists. Because talking bollocks is all she seems to have contributed to planet earth so far.

Hell, I actually got stupider reading that.
One Day Hero
19-Jan-2015
10:15:08 PM
On 19/01/2015 martym wrote:
>How does your mind work? One minute you're surprised they achieved their
>goal, the next you're hanging shit on them?

Because their goal teeters between awesome and dumb. Big, long, massively hard epic route - awesome. Spending 7 years dogging the shit out of something, falling off a million times, getting all o.c.d. about skin management, stage managed publicity........these things live down the dumb end of the climbing street.

bigchris
19-Jan-2015
10:35:36 PM
I think it's monumental. What you see as dumb, they see as pedantic and necessary to complete something epic and historic.
One Day Hero
19-Jan-2015
10:42:50 PM
You see a bit of silliness in it at some level though, right?

bigchris
19-Jan-2015
10:51:58 PM
I see what you're saying, however I don't think its any different from Usain Bolt training to run a 9 second race, or Tony Hawk training to pull a 900 kicker. The only difference I think, is these dudes get to be totally badass and sleep in a portaledge 600 meters off of the deck for 3 weeks instead of going home when they're knackered.

martym
19-Jan-2015
10:58:49 PM
On 19/01/2015 One Day Hero wrote:
>You see a bit of silliness in it at some level though, right?

Fair call.
I guess the whole thing lays outside the realm of "normal climbing", at any level... They were applying siege tactics to a big wall project with a camera crew and social media campaign..
Hardly "purist" in the Royal Robbins sense...

That said, hats off to em - see of they get on sixty minutes?

Stugang
20-Jan-2015
7:47:10 AM
All that effort and it only gets 2 stars.

ajfclark
20-Jan-2015
8:17:35 AM
On 19/01/2015 Wendy wrote:
>Climbing the Dawn Wall on the other hand is merely pointless:)

Except when you accidentally dislodge a haul bag and end up with a rib separated from your sternum...

Eduardo Slabofvic
20-Jan-2015
9:32:44 AM
On 19/01/2015 bentobox wrote:
>>This is absolutely mind-boggling! It reeks of someone who has nothing
>to say but desperately needs some attention to remind people that she exists.
>Because talking bollocks is all she seems to have contributed to planet
>earth so far.

Cut her some slack, Botoxbox, she's an academic, so no doubt is struggling with the concept of having to work for a living. I recon she could write a cracking article on drinking chardonnay and smoking cigarettes.

shortman
20-Jan-2015
9:44:40 AM
On 20/01/2015 ajfclark wrote:
>On 19/01/2015 Wendy wrote:
>>Climbing the Dawn Wall on the other hand is merely pointless:)
>
>Except when you accidentally dislodge a haul bag and end up with a rib
>separated from your sternum...

Yep, and for those who haven't done it...she hurts....she hurts real bad...

MonkeyBoy
20-Jan-2015
1:14:03 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLd_c4CjG44

Footage of some of the climbing on pitch 15 to further fan the fires of discussion here.

Drake
20-Jan-2015
2:41:33 PM
>>>I guess the whole thing lays outside the realm of "normal climbing", at any level... They were applying siege tactics to a big wall project with a camera crew and social media campaign..
>Hardly "purist" in the Royal Robbins sense...

Like many big climbing achievements, future climbers will come back to this route and do it in better style with no porters, less social media wanking, leading all pitches free instead of team-free, etc. However I still give these guys heaps of respect for finishing a huge project and dealing with the demands of sponsorship and media with a modicum of grace.

Gnaguts
20-Jan-2015
3:03:39 PM
On 20/01/2015 Stugang wrote:
>All that effort and it only gets 2 stars.

an wot hav they done on grit?
One Day Hero
20-Jan-2015
5:33:34 PM
On 20/01/2015 Drake wrote:
>Like many big climbing achievements, future climbers will come back to
>this route and do it in better style with no porters, less social media
>wanking, leading all pitches free instead of team-free, etc.

Really? What makes you so sure about that?
martym
20-Jan-2015
6:13:08 PM
What's team-free?
kieranl
20-Jan-2015
8:27:44 PM
On 19/01/2015 martym wrote:
>On 19/01/2015 One Day Hero wrote:
>>You see a bit of silliness in it at some level though, right?
>
>Fair call.
>I guess the whole thing lays outside the realm of "normal climbing", at
>any level... They were applying siege tactics to a big wall project with
>a camera crew and social media campaign..
>Hardly "purist" in the Royal Robbins sense...
>

And "normal" climbing isn't silly? Caldwell and Jorgensen were just carrying silliness to a level that garnered public attention. I could almost see Harding's ghost hovering over the scene screaming "Yes! Yes! Yes!" (apologies to Molly Bloom).
I really enjoyed the whole thing and got emotionally engaged (will Kevin get pitch 15). Four and a half stars from me.
Ithomas
21-Jan-2015
8:41:16 AM
On 19/01/2015 bigchris wrote:
>I see what you're saying, however I don't think its any different from
>Usain Bolt training to run a 9 second race, or Tony Hawk training to pull
>a 900 kicker. The only difference I think, is these dudes get to be totally
>badass and sleep in a portaledge 600 meters off of the deck for 3 weeks
>instead of going home when they're knackered.
>
What is 'totally badass'?

shortman
21-Jan-2015
9:18:08 AM
On 21/01/2015 Ithomas wrote:
>On 19/01/2015 bigchris wrote:
> The only difference I think, is these dudes get to be totally
>>badass and sleep in a portaledge 600 meters off of the deck for 3 weeks
>>instead of going home when they're knackered.
>>
>What is 'totally badass'?

Sleeping 600m off the deck apparently??
martym
21-Jan-2015
9:51:37 AM
On 21/01/2015 shortman wrote:
>On 21/01/2015 Ithomas wrote:
>>On 19/01/2015 bigchris wrote:
>> The only difference I think, is these dudes get to be totally
>>>badass and sleep in a portaledge 600 meters off of the deck for 3 weeks
>>>instead of going home when they're knackered.
>>>
>>What is 'totally badass'?
>
>Sleeping 600m off the deck apparently??

And sleeping next to a bag of your own feces for 18 days...

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