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Retrieved pro from Dog Rock - LittleHammer début.
TimP
29-Jun-2015
10:24:18 AM
Hopelessly jammed and abandoned bit of pro retrieved with the "Booty Master".
If anyone will admit to abandoning it, name the piece and the climb and I'll post it to you.
...Oh the "Booty Master" is my new nut tool LittleHammer.
Sorry just made all your nut tools redundant!
Check it out here: LittleHammer spring loaded impact nut tool.


shortman
29-Jun-2015
10:29:50 AM
Did you pull the dead possum out of Braveheart? Was great to throw a sling around, :)
TimP
29-Jun-2015
10:38:48 AM
Possum sling? This is an off-width technique I'll need to practice. Surely a live one would hold better?

Eduardo Slabofvic
29-Jun-2015
11:49:20 AM
On 29/06/2015 TimP wrote:
>Hopelessly jammed and abandoned bit of pro retrieved with the "Booty Master".
>
>If anyone will admit to abandoning it, name the piece and the climb and
>I'll post it to you.
>

I admit to abandoning it (.... oh the shame; the shame...). I call the piece Rodger, and I call the route Brian.

Looking forward to receiving the gear. Thanks for your efforts.

MrBill
29-Jun-2015
5:41:53 PM
I'm gonna make a wild guess...

The crack start to semantics and mo money, Size 2 nylon Tricam? If not, the bloody thing is probably still there haha.
I haven't much experience with the art of tricams, was practicing placements and it ended up getting good and stuck, managed to rotate it completely sideways after initial attempts to free it with a nut key.

shortman
29-Jun-2015
6:57:02 PM
On 29/06/2015 TimP wrote:
>...Oh the "Booty Master" is my new nut tool LittleHammer.
>Sorry just made all your nut tools redundant!
>Check it out here: LittleHammer
>spring loaded impact nut tool.
>
Very clever TimP.
richb
29-Jun-2015
7:15:42 PM
Tim showed me a prototype of the Little Hammer a while back and it is very clever and beautifully made. If you love your trad and aid, take a closer look...
TimP
29-Jun-2015
10:31:20 PM
Thanks Richb and Shortman.

Thats the one MrBill, PM your address and I'll post it to you… or meet you up there for a climb?
It was well jammed, I managed to move it backwards after a few shots from LittleHammer, then got it rotated and out. It was the Rubics Cube of placements! I was almost going to leave it in there and clip it for my aid climb.
This was LittleHammers first actual climb (after many field tests there) It is great for aid — all the nut placements and hexes where jammed in Semantics crack but I got them out easy. Scoring this bit of booty was an added bonus! This all gave me the confidence to go public with the design today, headed for a Kickstarer campaign to get it into production.

Superstu
30-Jun-2015
9:31:47 AM
Nice craftmanship, well done! Great to see some true aussie innovation in the spirit of Hill's Hoists and the goon bag.

I might stick with the humble hex hammer meself, but I can see the advantage of a one-handed operation. ;-)

Best to launch your new gadgety thingo on sites like mountainproject and supertopo. The west coast yanks do not seem to partake in the joy of hex and may find your little invention their salvation. Monday morning booty runs at J-Tree could be a thing of the past.





IdratherbeclimbingM9
30-Jun-2015
11:40:22 AM
Ss wrote:
>Nice craftmanship, well done! Great to see some true aussie innovation in the spirit of Hill's Hoists and the goon bag.

+1 to that.



Re nylon slung Tricams and removal. I am a bit surprised it required a 'hammer' type of action to retrieve it, and relate more to TimP's Rubic-Cube statement about them, as they can almost fall into funky placements but due to their design can be a bear to try and lift out!
In those situations finesse is the go with subtle angling of the piece with a nut tool to enable lifting it without it rotating into a lock position often being the key to success.



I noticed from the link provided the following statement about LittleHammer.
Aid climbing. In aid climbing all nut placements are jammed so you need a friend to help you get them out. LittleHammer will improve your efficient upwards movement when cleaning a pitch, especially dealing with RP’s and other micro nuts that are hard to dislodge — being too small to strike accurately.

For hammerless aid climbing LittleHammer can be used to set beaks, tomahawks, peckers, and RURPs, to firm them up in their placement before weighting them. The hook on the handle end of LittleHammer is for reverse impacts to get this gear out, the same job as a funkiness device with a hammer.


... and offer the following comments from my experience; -

RP's, especially in the smaller sizes, have the complete underside of the nut filled by the wires retaining the head. This makes them extremely hard to dislodge from below without damaging those wires, and I can't see LittleHammer easily getting a purchase point to accurately strike them from any angle below.

I eventually got sick of wrecking RP wires with a conventional nut tool, and so I filed down a separate nut tool to a very fine point above the hook-end, as a dedicated RP remover (to hit from below), after precisely placing that point between the wires...

RURPs almost never make good hand placed placements in clean aiding. In fact for hammered aid they can often still be marginal after setting them with substantial hammer blows, as unless the crack is ideally suited to them, they have a remarkable propensity to destroy their own placement. This (all too often), is easily achieved with just one whack on them too many while placing same.
~> I suggest there will be only rare instances where LittleHammer would ever help in RURP usage.

Regarding setting beaks etc. This is easily achieved by tugging downward on the clip-off point for same. Their design is such that they either 'bite in' better or they blow out of the placement. If the placement is so marginal that LittleHammer could help set them, I suggest the time involved in determining that would not necessarily be "efficient".


>Sorry just made all your nut tools redundant!

Having said the above I will still be buying one of your LittleHammer Nut Tools when they become available, but don't see it being quite the aid-friend to the extent it is initially purported as being.


Post edit:
Re funkness devices.
Your innovative application of a LittleHammer rear end hook, though similar is different!
... I remember well quite a lot of old-daze placements (read pitons), that it was even a struggle with a burly funkness device to remove. When you raise a sweat yarding on a funkness, you may consider the LittleHammer a bit lightweight in the same situation ☺, though for direct shot removal of hand-placed and subsequently weighted beaks etc, I think it would work well.


Ben_E
30-Jun-2015
12:20:11 PM
Great to see someone playing with designs...

...but does your nut tool come with an extra side of mild smut and double entrendre?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dicksnuttool/dicks-nut-tool
TimP
1-Jul-2015
12:19:07 PM
Thanks for all the great feedback, this really helps me develop and express the concept. Also thanks mods for the title change, I'm cheekily walking the spam line here.

Will try those sites thanks Superstu, Hills Hoist and the devils handbag is lofty company indeed.

Yeah Ben_e that entire campaign based on innuendo: wink-wink nudge-nudge. They didn't get funded.

Thanks for your wisdom M9, I'm really talking though my hat with aid climbing so it's great to have some real perspective. Will do a bit of editing of my blurbs.

In appreciation of the support here's the first image to be published — exclusive on Chocky!


Ben_E
1-Jul-2015
3:16:32 PM
Looks nicely made, what does it weigh in at in its current form?

Mind you, I'm a bit scared of spring-loaded climbing gear. The one and only time I played with a big bro I nearly took out my eye when I pushed the trigger button while peering down it (yeah, I know, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed at times).

phillipivan
1-Jul-2015
4:08:21 PM
Is that your normal working method, Ben_e? Peer down barrel, pull trigger. Fascinating.
TimP
1-Jul-2015
10:11:50 PM
On 1/07/2015 Ben_E wrote:
>Looks nicely made, what does it weigh in at in its current form?
>
>Mind you, I'm a bit scared of spring-loaded climbing gear. The one and
>only time I played with a big bro I nearly took out my eye when I pushed
>the trigger button while peering down it (yeah, I know, I'm not the sharpest
>tool in the shed at times).

It's 130g — definitely the heavyweight of nut tools, but I argue the most effective! The brass impact weight is necessarily the heavy bit, but I like the 2.6mm stainless steel body as it'll handle abuse. I'll work on lightening the body with holes and tapering for a future version but I'll keep this robust one available for those that like gear to cope with hard use.

The spring on LittleHammer is not as scary as a big bro!

shortman
2-Jul-2015
7:36:04 AM
On 1/07/2015 Ben_E wrote:
>The one and
>only time I played with a big bro I nearly took out my eye when I pushed
>the trigger button while peering down it (yeah, I know, I'm not the sharpest
>tool in the shed at times).

Great way to wake up the kids, :)
bones
2-Jul-2015
9:22:46 AM
On 1/07/2015 Ben_E wrote:
>Looks nicely made, what does it weigh in at in its current form?
>
>Mind you, I'm a bit scared of spring-loaded climbing gear. The one and
>only time I played with a big bro I nearly took out my eye when I pushed
>the trigger button while peering down it (yeah, I know, I'm not the sharpest
>tool in the shed at times).

Since when has weight been a consideration in your decison to buy and haul around large amounts of excess gear ;)
bentobox
5-Jul-2015
9:36:34 PM
Sign me up for one.

I'm retarded and struggle with everything. If everything had springs, my life would be easier.
rightarmbad
5-Jul-2015
10:31:50 PM
Don't get it, how is this any better than tap, tap with a standard tool?
I suppose it may be an advantage for those that try and stab or push with a normal tool.

But tap, tap always works, and if you can get that into it, you can get a tap, tap into it.
TimP
8-Jul-2015
5:06:58 PM
Thanks Bentobox, will put you on my list of people to let know when the Kickstarter campaign goes live.

On 5/07/2015 rightarmbad wrote:

>But tap, tap always works, and if you can get that into it, you can get
>a tap, tap into it.

Interesting Rightarmbad, what is the tap tap technique — are you swinging the nut tool like a hammer? I've always been a stabber.

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