|On 8/05/2013 Nick Clow wrote:
>One of my pet hates on CS is people who cut and paste the whole (or a
>large portion) of someone else's preceding message and then simply go through
>it and insert their own comments. Every one can see the previous messages
>on the thread. It shows a distinct lack of imagination, in my view.
>If you are genuinely and seriously asking me what is wrong with having
>dirty great lines of rings all over The Point, then maybe it's time for
>me to give up climbing.
>The Point is unusual and precious in having an abundance of natural lines.
>Icebird, Windjammer, Grey Mist, Face de Rat, Bushido, Hungry Eyes, Montezuma,
>Memorable Moves, Tenere, Jaws, The Deeps etc are (off the top of my head)
>all bolt-free trad lines. The original developers of The Point actually
>envisaged it as an entirely bolt-free area, a 'mixed' basis is actually
>Is it too much to ask that sport climbers leave this area alone or work
>within the guidelines for bolting? If you want to go sport climbing isn't
>there enough for you in the whole of Nowra? Some people are grossly offended
>by lines of ring-bolts at a trad area and the dumbing down of the game
>to the lowest common denominator. Where have they got to go?
Okay, I'll leave your post in one piece to try and keep you happy, but I suspect I won't have much luck.
Nope, I'm not "genuinely and seriously" asking that - I asked why boycotting a ring bolted climb (in particular, this one, which even you said might be good) at the point motivates you, 'cause I could guess, but I would probably be wrong.
Also, why do you have the idea the point was ever envisaged as "bolt free"? Minimal bolts was the original request ( in the old interim guide) . It would have been more interesting and even scarier as a pure trad crag, but it didn't happen. It's not a trad crag, it's not a sports crag, it's a mixed bag with the most awesome atmosphere around, a mongrel that everyone loves. Telling people to only sports climb at Nowra is like telling people to not to clip the bolts if they want to trad climb - selfish, 'cause it's asking others to compromise to suit your own tastes.