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New toy at Sublime Point 3-Dec-2009 At 9:22:50 AM hughsut

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On 6/04/2009 sportmonkey1 wrote:
>As much as we appreciate these fabbo new routes being bolted for us. You
>do feel a sense of arrogence in the use of carrots instead of rings. I
>bet my nuts that if that route was harder and closer to the max grade these
>boys climb then it would have rings on it.
>Its ok for the masses to fumble with bolt plates if they are near their
>max grade but the first ascent group. It kind of defeats the arguement
>that carrots are ok if they are not used on the harder routes.

Thanks for the insight into how you feel about the use of carrots when the first ascensionists aren't climbing at their limit. You have inspired me to turn the tide. I'm going to bolt something harder than I've ever climbed before using grade 304 stainless, keyed, glue in carrots. I'm thinking about painting the heads so they're camouflaged. Is more run out better so you don't have to fiddle on as many of those bolt plates?