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Panzer ... 12 ... NOT! 16-Aug-2006 At 9:18:43 AM Ronny

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Yeah I think Finger Nickin' is the big robust red equivilent of Orestes - everyone knows its easy, but no one wants to admit it cause it was many people's first 24. My feeling is its closer to 23 - things often feel easy when you onsight them Simey.

I actually think the grades are a bit all over the place at Moonarie. This is probably because some routes are repeated regularly, while others are almost never repeated, and previous guide book editors have probably been more inclined to record the details as the first ascentionist saw them rather than the current consensus. (Flying Buttress/Hangover Layback is a good example) So it adds to the 'rep' when people who only go there occasionally stumble on one of the stout numbers - but there's actually plenty of soft ticks around if you know where to look for them.