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Cool cave i went to in mexico 3-Mar-2005 At 12:13:31 PM bne

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Warning...highly technical explainations...

Well, here is my poor attempt at photography with my 2 megajiggle camera. And the thing about caves, is that they are dark...makes photos harder.

Anyway, this is the big open entrance chamber of a (limestone?) cave in mexico. there are small cavey passages out the back. this route is called "dime vaquera" (Tell me cow-girl). Starts up the stal, then through the roof and actually exits the cave. its real grade is 12c...i was told 11a (obviously the sandbag concept is international)...

There is another stupidly hard routether... about 30 meters of pure roof.

And there is an easier 10 ish face-roof thing, "Puro Sangre" (pure blood) named after a used sanitary pad found at the base when the ground around it was being cleared.

summary-
hollow mountain, but with more stalagtites....and a bit higher....
Thailand, but no beach/sticky rice man/tidal waves.