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Kim Carrigan BOOK 11-Mar-2017 At 1:40:22 PM ima.seriousyoungliza

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...davej...mate...fair dinkum ...just when I thought u were the intelligensia of Chockstone......one of the wisest of the long term Arapiles-Natimuk 'scene ' ...

>>>the names already been taken. ...

hero already enlightened us about all that ....BUT ANYWAY...there are climbs of the same name all over the country ...the world ...u can have 2 climbs with the same name at one crag ... the different grades will make it obvious and not cause any confusion ...in a guide book ...like Ewbank sed ... the description will spell it all out ...

>>>How about we call it Lord of the Rings Lesser Variant?

...about as much as ura ' lesser varient ' of daveC...

>>>lets give it 29 since we've established that's about what Kim was climbing back around then.

...OK well thats gotta be a troll...ITS 31 UP TO THE SLAB...Kim worked the the route for 4 years ...AND DID CLIMB IT !!! ....WETHER U LOT LIKE IT OR NOT !!!...he picked up sh#t loads of muscle memory, beta and perma chalk tick marks to make it happen ....the only other 31 in the world in 1984 was the one put up be Wolfy that year ... so U an damo need to take a deep breth and get to grips with the fact that Kim Carrigan was at the top of world climbing (not just with grades but with world travel and interacting with and contributing to ...all the major climbing scenes around the world at that time ..

...ur logic is like davej says he just climed a new 21 ... and everyones like ....AAAWWWWW NO WAY !!!!... davej did Addiction ...therefore the new route must be 33 !!!

Lord of the rings adds a grade 25 slab to Kim's GRADE 31 HISTORICALLY TOTALLY IMPORTANT MEGA EFFORT ...

YOU guys are re-writing history ...NOT ME !!!...

...thanks for the reply davej ....now go an finish the Inqueersition ...

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...AND EVERYONE PLEASE GET IT CLEAR IN UR HEDS...ROUTES 2 , 3 & 4 are not varients of .. but are extensions to ...KIM CARRIGAN'S SERIOUS YOUNG LIZARDS ( 31 ) ...possibly the first 31 on the planet ...

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