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TR: Alive in a Bitter Sea (Katoomba Cliifs) 6-Dec-2016 At 6:29:26 PM simey

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Good read Paul and I admire your tenacity and honesty in how you repeated Alive in a Bitter Sea.

However I have always felt that Warwick Baird hijacked one of the great pieces of real estate in the Blueys with his pre-inspected, sparsely bolted creations in this part of the world.

I just reckon the fact that you had to go to all that faff of pre-inspecting and working the climb before you were even willing to attempt it on lead really detracts from the route. Out of interest, how many ascents has Alive in a Bitter Sea had? And how many of those have been ground-up?

If first ascentionists are not willing to meet the challenges of the cliff by going ground-up (like say Tobin Sorenson did on Tjuringa at Arapiles) then they should think twice before bolting selfish, egotistical, run-out climbs from rap.