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Shackles and the sheriff of Shipley 28-Apr-2011 At 2:41:19 PM rolsen1

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On 28/04/2011 Sabu wrote:
>On 28/04/2011 tris wrote:
>>Simey, why couldn't you just climb up after the less experienced climbers
>>and clean it then?
>Because that would involve simey having to climb..! :P
>
>I'm bemused by this topic because I don't see how hard it is to put some
>draws on and lower off if everyone wants to have a go on the climb. As
>for the debate about lowering off or rapping off; I know i'm slightly more
>comfortable with the former given you can stay in the system the entire
>time whereas rapping involves removing yourself and equalising the rope
>before you can get back in. That said, there can be confusion with the
>lower offs when a climber says "safe" then wants to get back on belay etc,
>so from that perspective rapping off minimises the potential error from
>someone else.

So you're a bit uncomfortable about removing yourself from the system to rap (even though its not hard) but you expect someone without the confidence to lead the route to do same thing? Or you expect the leader to re-climb the route just to save the anchors a tiny bit of wear? The same amount of wear if they had both lead two separate routes?