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Trashing Tassie ... it's beyond salvation 23-Mar-2011 At 9:03:42 AM Climboholic

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On 22/03/2011 Tastrad wrote:
>... When consensus is not possible, sometimes you
>just have to act, so Doug Fife and I acted to remove the abseil bolts on
>the Ben and remove all ambiguity. If the bolts are reinstalled, with Doug's
>attitude the rot will set in and soon there will be rap stations all over
>the cliff, lower-offs after first pitches, and eventually bolted climbs.
>All we want is one last bastion of trad purity left in Tasmania - climb
>on natural gear and descend by the traditional way as well.

Thank you for finally stating your case concisely without using the term c0ck in any context. You'll find that more people will come around to your way of thinking if you present your argument like this, instead of attacking anyone who disagrees with you.

I think that the last 260 odd posts can be summarised by your quote above and the counter argument by Neil below:

On 19/03/2011 nmonteith wrote:
>I actually think Jesus has a good point amongst all this randomness. Double
>standards about bolting in Tassie wilderness seems like a real issue. The
>slow eroding of old school trad crags into sport venues is happening all
>over Australua. Why is Ben Lomond picked as the one and only crag that
>should be bolt free? I just wish (as usual) that people with strong opinions
>actually put their own name to their posts. I give Gerry credit for actually
>putting his own name to his postings and for not bitching and moaning behind
>peoples back. He doesn't leave any doubts about his thoughts. However I
>don't agree with the way he seems to ignore others opinions - the poll
>running shows 82% in support of bolted rap anchors at Ben Lomond - with
>100+ votes recorded. One man abusing the world isn't a great way of getting
>support for the cause.

I'd like to thank Jesus for stimulating the conversation (even though he added very little that was intelligible). A bit of controversy and emotion makes chocky entertaining.