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Off-topic: Climbers who believe in Jesus 7-Feb-2011 At 8:16:23 PM rolsen1

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On 7/02/2011 dave h. wrote:
>rolsen -
>>James (the one from the Bible) says "anyone who knows the
>> good he (she) ought to do and doesn't do it sins"
>
>Yeah. Reading the Bible is tough like that - it convicts me of my sin.
>I think you'll find a lot of Christians have consistent beliefs but struggle
>to find ways of realising those beliefs in action. Did you think I was
>claiming to be some spotless pure saint sojourning amongst sinners?

I certainly don't expect you, and other christians, to be "pure spotless saints", I actually expect you to be self -centred, self obsessed, middle class and white.

I was responding to your "sickness" about suggestions that christians are intellectually lazy. You're happy for some parts of the bible to be black and white (that don't effect your life) while other parts that do effect you........ are a "struggle"?? Christians know about poor, the helpless and injustice not only do they do little (about the same as non-christians) - they support structures of discrimination against women, homosexuals, and others.

>God'll sort out everyone who claims to be a Christian. One way or the other.

If you're right about this then I'd suggest being "intellectually lazy" is the least of your problems. (boom tish)

>Re Christian beliefs causing harm - do you think it is the belief in se,
>or the way that belief is acted upon?
>
>Anyway, I'm a little confused. It seems like you're pissed off that Christians
>aren't better Christians.

Too right I'm pissed off, pissed off with Christians who believe that women should be led by a man, trying to brain wash my kids.