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It's got FHs and a lower off. no trad

22%

It's got FHs but lower off or topout. no trad

It's got FH's all the way topout to trad belay OK

It's got any old bolt all the way

54%

It's got any old bolt, runout possible

13%

it's got any old bolt but may need trad when easy

scrap the symbol, they are all just climbs

i only climb at ben lomond so i dont understand Q

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When is a route a sport climb 16-Jan-2011 At 7:32:39 PM bw

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On 16/01/2011 superstu wrote:
>The Sydney cliffs are a big mismash of history and technology. You'll
>find trad, mixed carrots, plain carrots, retrobolts and french sport.
>At the moment my data simply has a 'sport climb' tag for some climbs, but
>some of the data (particularly from SSS) was very open with the interpretation
>of a sport climb. A couple of carrots and the odd trad placement in the
>easy sections got sport climb symbols! The simplest situation I just stick
>with that, but I want to clarify what people are expecting when they see
>the sport climb symbol in a guidebook.

I frequent barrenjoey & often see folks running around trying to find the climbs that match the ones with the 'quickdraw' symbol (often euros), they seem to be looking for rings (etc) I think it's a good heads up.

>How about this for consideration:
>* Carrot symbol for any climb with one or more carrot bolts. Includes
>climbs which need some trad gear and some climbs where the carrots are
>the only gear. Route description details if trad is needed at all and belay
>options. So basically you are being warned to bring brackets, the rest
>is in the description.
>* Ringbolt or croissant symbol for all ring bolted/U/FH climbs. Specific
>mention if no loweroff. otherwise assume there is. Basically you need
>draws only.
>* Everything else gets no symbol, read the route description for details
>and figure things out at the base. Basically all trad I guess.
>
>I would also like to stick with the skull & crossbones symbol for any
>climb which is generally considered dangerous due to bad bolts, loose rock,
>poor pro or other objective danger.
>
>

sounds great, I like the carrot symbol idea