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araps 9-12th april 6-Apr-2004 At 10:02:55 AM Tel

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On 6/04/2004 stinkingoat wrote:
>
>I think the people who did the first ascents of those problems would disagree
>with you. (or should I say I know)
>>
>Better still, dont name it, dont grade it, just walk away with a sense
>of satifaction within yourself. JUST LIKE IN THE OLD DAYS!!!!!
>
>Thats what bouldering was all about before grades were invented. (Bouldering
>has been around since before rock climbing. Grades are very new to the
>scene)

Sorry can't say that I agree with you stinkingoat, I think boulder problems should have names and grades the same as other climbs do. Look at the Castle hill article in the latest rock, the bouldering looks amazing, and in the issue before, the pics of Richard 'Sticky' Dale bouldering at font, there are problem names at these places that I would like to add to my little list at thecrag.com. I appreciate things were different in the old days, but by giving problems names and grades it helps give us (me) a yardstick to measure ourselves against and when discussing particular problems, by giving them a name it makes them easliy identifiable.
As an example I 'll use Serpentine on taipan wall, now Mr Malcolm HB Matheson, probalby could have walked away with just a sense of satisfaction, but then we all miss out and fail to appreciate the achievement.
Progressions in rock climbing and bouldering aren't always ruinous to its historical integrity.
Having said all that, I'll probalby be seen as a smartarse, but the project/problem at Camels (posted above), I'll name ..."GONE ARE THE DAYS!!!!!" and grade it V1 - V2, someone else may amend the grade,...... maybe.
terry