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Climbing For Christ Australia 9-May-2010 At 7:59:58 AM GravityHound
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On 8/05/2010 Phil S wrote:
>I can't help but wonder if our outspoken un-believers are consistant. What
>about belief in intuition? Love? Mass consioucness? UFOs? The Loch Ness
>Monster?

1) Love is a demonstrable effect of hormones and brain functions
2) The monster was a marketing strategy
3) UFO's. Seeing as we are finding huge numbers of exoplanets and the universe is 13 billion years old it is a possibility
4) Mass conciousness = subjective experience

>
>There was no evidence that bacteria existed until recently... But some
>people had a hunch it was something other than bad vapours that made us
>ill. A some point someone somewhere had "faith" that there was more to
>the story.

What is recently? Bacteria have been known to exist for centuries (1600's?), since microscopes were discovered pretty much. Unlike God they were discovered because they could be seen with the human eyes. Evidence of links between bacteria and illness were found through rationale scientific enquiry, something which will never provide evidence of God. Faith in God is based on evidence in a book, a scientist may have faith that something is going on however this is not quite the same thing because their faith will be based on some form of rational evidence. Trying to say they are both the same is just plain wrong. Kant wrote about this in the 1700's and I have to admit to feeling his thoughts having more creedance on this issue.

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