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Ben Nevis - Shame on you. What a waste of a crag. 10-Aug-2009 At 9:50:10 AM ado_m

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Fix it up - it is about time that safety and reasonable bolting standards trump a first ascentionist "rights" to leave a crag in a poorly bolted (thus unused) condition!

Simply no excuse for putting in shit carrots 15 metres apart. I've visited so many little granite crags in victoria with terrible bolting from the 80s that it would be nice to have one with bolts a reasonable distance apart (ie 5 metre).

While appreciate it may not be that desperate in nice weather within your grade, but when it starts pissing down even a low angled slab can be treacherous to climbers well within their grade...

The first ascentionist don't own the crag, and so if someone wants to spend their time and money retrobolting to make the route safe by reasonable standards then best of luck to them....sure, ask the first ascentionist to be polite (if you can find them), but if they've got a problem with it then screw them and fix the route up so it can be enjoyed safely in a variety of conditions.

Brad - do you know who put up the route you climbed? Why don't you ask them if you can rebolt (to be polite)? I'll give you a hand if you're looking for one, in spring.