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REGISTER TO VOTE 30-Jul-2007 At 8:39:14 PM Snowball

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On 30/07/2007 gordoste wrote:
>because I criticise your argument doesn't mean I agree with your "enemies".
Unfortunately they are the people that lead this country not my "enemies"

>You are correct that the US foreign policy in the 80's included fighting
>the (significant at the time) Russian threat by arming the mujaheddin (Afghan
>guerilla soldiers).
And training.
> This was largely successful however had unforeseen
>long-term consequences (creating a network of organised militant religious
>institutions that are perfect for terrorist recruitment). I would have
>to question that Al Qaeda was set up and named by the USA... what is the
>source for that?

As far as setting up, you have to look at the history of Al Qaeda. You have answered that yourself although the many groups that have since come under this umbrella were known by many different names.

As for the name it's self:
"'The US intelligence community used the term "al-Qaeda" for the first time only after the 1998 embassy bombings', he says, when suspected bin Laden followers detonated bombs at the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people. Dolnik says al-Qaeda was used as a 'convenient label for a group that had no formal name'."
Al-Qaeda: Casting a Shadow of Terror, Jason Burke, IB Tauris, 2003

Robin Cook, British Foreign Secretary from 1997 to 2003, will later say that “al-Qaeda” was originally the name of a database. In a 2005 article, Cook will write that bin Laden was “a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the ‘80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaeda, literally ‘the database,’ was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujaheddin who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.” Cook will give no explanation as to how he might know this. [Guardian, 7/8/2005]

Global Terror is a Con Job.

>The latest in the news is that Congress is considering a proposal to sell
>arms to the Saudis to help mitigate the Iranian threat. The more things
>change, the more they stay the same.

All the middle eastern despots are getting a hand out! Any Shiites getting weapons?