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China to build highway on Mount Everest 23-Jun-2007 At 9:11:57 AM GravityHound

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billk - yeah, guilty as charged for being generalist! unfortunately though, some chinese love and are very proud of their country and any history. i work closely with a tibetan phd student and there are several chinese phd students on campus also. not a pretty situation. there have been a few barely-veiled threats, in public, an open forum, to the tibetan lady 'incase' she decides to say something about china and tibet.

phil - by no means am i implying china is the only country with pretty shocking human rights (or environmental problems etc.), yep, we can be quite atrocious ourselves, but they are the focus of this particular topic. and unfortunately, the constructive action we can take is minimal. i spent a month in beijing with other researchers and was appalled by how little scientific knowledge from the rest of the world they are allowed to access. i tried to post, email and provide web access for some of them to gain access to pretty rudimentary non-political (agricultural!) scientific commentary. nothing ever made it through. no matter how much action we try, we will always be stopped by the chinese government (or our government so we dont stuff up trade relations with china?).