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Ben Lomond Bolts Removed 19-Apr-2007 At 10:47:16 AM Neil

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an interesting discussion.
i've been to the ben a few times and used the rap bolts.

it's a shame they are gone. I hope the place does not get covered in fixed tat from people rapping off slings etc now that the rap bolts are gone. i.e belays on rajah, barbe vi vendete etc etc anyone been to the warrumbungles and done flight of the phoenix - the massive pile of tat there is an eye sore lots worse than a pair of rap anchors..... araps before the NBF - tat everywhere and fixed mank galore.

what about the fixed ropes and environmental damage at the base of the climbs at ben lomond ?
the fixed ropes used to climb up through the scrub on the eroded approaches are pure convenience - will they be removed ?

i fully support the "ethic" of a trad cliff with no bolts. but surely climbers are mature enough to see the difference and accept a compromise between bolts for climbing and bolts for other reasons.

anyway, its nice to see some passion from the locals over what is a fantastic cliff. it all looks a tad hypocritical from the outside when you consider what was done at hillwood. sometimes less is more !!!!