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Naming rights on FAs (aka The Law of Ming) 10-Jul-2006 At 1:24:54 PM Ronny

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On 10/07/2006 nmonteith wrote:
>I think its just too murky to make a blanket rule. Names and dates of the
>first TR ascent can be a pretty
>cool historial record! (ie routes at KP were done by the famous old guared
>in the late 1950's as training
>for real mountain routes - and then led decades later by their more pure
>minded trainees). Remember
>single pitch climbing wasn't really consideedr proper climbing until the
>60s! They top-roped things
>because it was just a training tool.

Just like I said above, those routes were 'done' in the style of the times back then. So sure they go down as routes with first ascent details. If you tried to write up routes similar to those as top-rope routes these days it wouldn't make sense. So this is not really relevant.

And the 'historical record' argument doesn't really go anywhere anyway - what about rodw's routes that he walks away from when he can't do it after much work and expense? who records that? The answer is that if it is important it will be recorded in a guide or whatever (eg everyone knows who 'prepared and equipped' punks).

BTW- didn't mean to suggest you weren't important rodw ;)