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Gym climbing difficult tonight 9-Sep-2005 At 2:46:18 AM wyt91t

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Dalai whats the go with the tie method ?
I'm from sydney and climb indoors just as much as outdoors.when i tie in there's no crab on my tie in point, it's either a rethreaded bowline with a stopper knot or the basic figure 8 method.thats the one thing that sucks about cliffhanger tie,climb,untie walk away what a pain. Clip,clip climb clip,clip walk away is so much easier. Now about tying knots should you really call yourself a climber if the belayer has to tie in for you. As a climber knots are the first thing that you learn it's like riding a bike you never forget? I work in a gym in sydney and i would hate my job if i had to run around checking that 80 school kids have tied there knots right, and saying how do i untie this when they get back down.? that would drive me crazy, carabiners are easy to spot when left open due to the red coloured screwing nut that ours have.We save alot of time teaching the clip screw method compared to cliffhanger where they have to make sure you can tie knots before climbing.Beginners are more interested in climbing that knots.It's when beginners start leading that they should know there knots and well at that.besides that i'am not complaining about cliffhanger,i love that place when i'am down in vic it's my second home the gym that is.