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23-Mar-2005 12:23:02 PM
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Ok what the f--k am I doing wrong? On grnaite it's fine but on the new sandstone crag I'm developing we're developing instead of getting nice clean holds they always seem to get crumbly and a complete mess.
Is there some technique I'm not aware off?
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23-Mar-2005 12:50:54 PM
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Maybe you haven't developed the technique of telling good solid rock from horrible soft stuff?
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23-Mar-2005 12:54:39 PM
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Try biting the rock. If the rock breaks up in your mouth don’t bother brushing, and if your teeth break, then it’s O.K. to proceed.
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23-Mar-2005 12:58:27 PM
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On 23/03/2005 BA wrote:
>Maybe you haven't developed the technique of telling good solid rock from
>horrible soft stuff?
I think he has just discovered the technique.. :-)
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23-Mar-2005 12:58:54 PM
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troll?
but isnt there a hard skin on sandstone that covers the soft crap, so if you brush through it...
i would guess that not using the brush might help. i would avoid wire brushing on any rock because i figure that most of the time the damage it does isnt worth the extra clean holds.
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23-Mar-2005 1:00:59 PM
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wat is wire brushing and wat is it's point?
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23-Mar-2005 1:06:16 PM
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On 23/03/2005 sabu wrote:
>wat is wire brushing and wat is it's point?
Its the act of raping and pillaging lichen, moss and other vegetation trying to grow in peace on climbable stone. The whole point of it is to upset National Parks Authorities!
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23-Mar-2005 1:07:46 PM
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I agree with Clancy in regards to this being a troll and also on wirebrushing sandstone.
On sandstone, at most required is a nylon bristled brush.
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23-Mar-2005 1:26:04 PM
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Definitely, most sandstone is way to soft for a wire brush, just an ordinary scrubbing brush if you have to at all. And I stress the IF YOU HAVE TO AT ALL.
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23-Mar-2005 3:39:15 PM
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Cutting half of the bristles off an old tooth brush also works quite well (ie, the bristles half the length).
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23-Mar-2005 4:01:52 PM
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On 23/03/2005 l Applat wrote:
>Ok what the f--k am I doing wrong? On grnaite it's fine but on the new
>sandstone crag I'm developing we're developing instead of getting nice
>clean holds they always seem to get crumbly and a complete mess.
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>Is there some technique I'm not aware off?
Where exactly are you brushing and why?????
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23-Mar-2005 5:44:02 PM
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Ah just head down to the wolgan and forget the brushing for holds, just rub with your fingers and make your own holds. Designer climbs!
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23-Mar-2005 6:05:16 PM
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>rub with your fingers and make your own holds
The Wolgan is not that bad (in most places). Try most Sydney seacliffs if you really want the chossy experience.
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23-Mar-2005 6:11:31 PM
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On 23/03/2005 M8iswhereitsat wrote:
>>rub with your fingers and make your own holds
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>The Wolgan is not that bad (in most places). Try most Sydney seacliffs
>if you really want the chossy experience.
Your right Stu, the wolgan is crap!
Too long a drive, too long a walk, too big a hill too many snakes, too hot in summer, too cold in winter, the rock is dodgy, the cliff tops are loos, there are no decent gullies and the clifss to big for abseil!
Nobody should go out there!
(that should keep the crowds away ;-D )
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23-Mar-2005 10:37:04 PM
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Firstly, get yerself a power tool. The old method of hand-brushing, while proven over the centuries, is really old hat. You need horsepower.
I'm not talkin' just any power tool, either. Ferget yer Bunnings $35 angle grinders, you need something major here to combat the growing evils of lush vegetation. I suggest a war-surplus helicopter, mounted upside down, as a suitable implement. It even has attachment hooks to clip to yer Gree-gree.
Now get yerself some bristles. The standard wire-brush bristles wear out far too quickly, so I suggest skipping to something more industrial-strength. Bunnings can be put to use here with several sheets of trench-mesh, lashed to the rotor.
Now yer ready to tackle a cliff. Happy routing.
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24-Mar-2005 6:29:46 PM
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On 23/03/2005 M8iswhereitsat wrote:
>Its the act of raping and pillaging lichen, moss and other vegetation
>trying to grow in peace on climbable stone. The whole point of it is to
>upset National Parks Authorities!
sounds like lots of fun, mayb it's just the word pillage that gets me going....
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1-Apr-2005 10:06:22 AM
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so true! but of course that stupid moss should be growing elsewhere by all rights. who said it could get in the way of us climbers?!
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