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Fixed gear guidelines in the Grampians 24-May-2018 At 4:10:02 PM Wendy

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On 24-May-2018 FatBoy wrote:
>On 24-May-2018 Wendy wrote:
>>And would they look any better with a 2.5m grid of carrots? Shiny steel
>>carrots on orange rock are not low viz. It would be a sea of sliver pimples.
>>Which brings us back to my original comment on visibility being about
>placement
>>and camouflage.
>
>C'mon Wendy, I know you're prosecuting a line of argument here, but that's
>demonstrably rubbish. We have eyes: carrots are 1/3 the visual intrusion
>of hangars / rings and are very rarely shiny - countless times while on
>route I've had to look for the carrot listed in the guide .. everybody
>who's climbed at Araps has.

Hell, I have to look for the fixed hangers ... especially if they have been camouflaged. Shiny silver anything stands out on orange rock. And stainless carrots are shiny. They are the same metal as stainless hangers. On most rock, I can't see bolts of any sort above about the 3rd. Unless they are currently catching the sun or uncamouflaged on orange rock.
>
>But I don't know that we want a 2.5m grid of anything do we ?

My point being that a 2.5m grid of anything would look crap. It's not the bolt type that's the issue.