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Neil will cave in

Macca will get sick of pestering and stop it

The "authorities" will step in and mediate

Neil will drive up and retrobolt Macca's clacka

44%

It will never end

"Neil.....I am your faather"

14%

"I've always loved you, Macca"

"I had a faarm in Aaafricaa"

11%

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How's the Neil/Macca thing gonna pan out? 8-Apr-2013 At 12:22:09 PM uwhp510

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On 8/04/2013 Big G wrote:
>I was pointing out that the argument used by tradominous was not valid
>as all froms of climbing damage the environment.
>
>like I said read the thread

Because the degree of environmental damage is irrelevant? Just like how building an open cut coal mine to power an endangered sparrow mincing factory in the Galapogas Islands, is exactly the same as driving your Prius down to the shops to buy organic blue berries for $12 a punnet? They both damage the environment after all.

All of the "environmental" impacts of climbing trad routes (which mainly seem to surround the tragic loss of lichen... won't somebody think of the lichen?) exist for sport climbs as well. Plus you've got the bolting thing and (more likely than not) increased traffic on the routes.

No you read the thread (translation: my position is so obviously correct that anyone who doesn't agree should just keep re-reading the arguments and counter arguments until they agree with me.)