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Oldest ozzie woman Jan Smith at 68 summits Everest 28-May-2012 At 10:40:04 AM cruze

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On 28/05/2012 Mike Bee wrote:
>On 28/05/2012 MisterGribble wrote:
>>For the record Jan Smith climbed Cho Oyu 3 years ago and this was her
>>3rd attempt on the big hill. She set herself a target and never gave
>up.
>>No different to dogging the living daylights out of something and then
>>redpointing it.
>
>There is a difference, redpointing means you finally led that project
>after dogging the living day lights out of it. You did the whole thing
>yourself, without weighting the rope. Jugging up Everest without even carrying
>your own gear doesn't count as redpointing, thus doesn't have the same
>level of achievement.
Yeah, on my deathbed I would rather recount the time I climbed to the top of some scungy cliff at Nowra without slumping onto the bolts (finally, took me 8 weekends of efforts over two years, but hell yeah I ticked... what grade was that again???) than look back at standing on the highest point in the world.... [really?]