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Yes - remove the swear words! 11
12% 
No - free speech for all! 80
88% 

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Swear words on forum posts

adski
13/07/2006
12:34:23 AM
Has anyone else noticed how much more swearing has taken place since the BadWord filter has been enabled? And I'm not just talking about OneDayHero's mirthful rebuke.

A dictum like this one takes the responsibility away from the individual, and prevents them from accountability and self-actualisation. With filters, people can be as callous as they like and in my opinion are less likely to take care with what they say in general. Less respect all round.

Is this poll designed to have a conclusion resulting in the addition / removal of a filter or is it just for shots and goggles?

nmonteith
13/07/2006
9:59:14 AM
On 13/07/2006 adski wrote:
>Is this poll designed to have a conclusion resulting in the addition /
>removal of a filter or is it just for shots and goggles?

That was the polls original point - but then i was told we needed to cater for the minority so it didn't matter
anyway. Thats pretty much why i quit.

Can i point out that the owner of this site, Micheal Boniwell, is NOT involved any of these modding
disputes. He prefers to keep away from the dramas!

Hatman
13/07/2006
5:55:01 PM
ok maybe I should explain my problem with the mods

I received a long winded email from
Jacqui Middleton asking me to edit that post about climbing injurys

http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=1&MessageID=37184&Replies=3&PagePos=40&Sort=LastMessage#newpost

I flat out refused and pointed out that moderating like that would likely
turn more pople away than do any good.

I also pointed out that it would
likely turn me away from chockstone. And if the forum had been so heavily
moderated around the time I noticed the burnley wall project I may never
have read the thread or donated and sold at cost price a load of holds
to the project. An example of the moding being a bad move.

But nevermind, the ACT forum is starting to move, maybe I will go and
be vulgar over there.

anyhows with all the shit, some people just forget that its about climbing,
Im off to have a wet dream about the 6th bolt and crux on my project.

BTW I did edit the post, see the lower paragraph
AntiPrincess
25/08/2006
6:38:38 PM
My two cents on the swearing issue for the moderators out there:

I don't think the sort of filtering that replace the "F" word with f**k etc. is worthwhile. You don't exactly
have to be a crossword expert to fill in the gaps.

But I DO find the "C" word a lot more offensive than any other form of swearing (because it's not gender
neutral - ask yourselves how often you've heard a female use that particular swear word) and would like to
see it banned entirely.

Cool Hand Lock
26/11/2006
1:38:14 AM
I think that the word has evolved to mean more than a vagina. It is so widely used to describe someone/something who you dislike or dissagree with that it has evolved into a descripive noun for a person/object that is unpleasent.
Whilst it is quite often unnessesary. Calling someone a "c--k" is widely accepted. "oh you dick-head" even more so.
Is it really gender neutrality your worried about or just your own gender neutrality?

rodw
26/11/2006
4:19:19 PM
Hahahaha...what a silly bunt.
kieranl
26/11/2006
9:56:46 PM
On 25/08/2006 AntiPrincess wrote:

>I don't think the sort of filtering that replace the "F" word with f**k
>etc. is worthwhile. You don't exactly
>have to be a crossword expert to fill in the gaps.
>
>But I DO find the "C" word a lot more offensive than any other form of
>swearing (because it's not gender
>neutral - ask yourselves how often you've heard a female use that particular
>swear word) and would like to
>see it banned entirely.
Filtering such as "f**k" is just pandering to the common operational delusion that if it isn't said explicitly you can get the effect while pretending that it is hasn't really happened. Or something like that. I'm sure sociologists and psychologists have a technical explanation. While it's quite delusional it does appear to have some sort of effect.
The "C" word is a bit different. It's in the class of words that are legitimate when used by the owners (in this case women) but are deeply offensive when used by non-owners (in this case men). A women using c*** in relation to female genitals is legitimate but confronting - because men almost always use the term in the offensive sense and men have set the rules. Men, because of the history, cannot use c*** inoffensively except in special circumstances.
It's similar to the term "nigger" in that way. While afro-americans can use "nigger" and have actively reclaimed the word for their own usage, its use by a non-afro-american is almost always unacceptable.
Interestingly, c*** will almost always be censored as "c**** or "c---", even when used by a woman, whereas "nigger" will hardly ever be censored in that sense. "Nigger" would either not appear in print at all or it would appear in full in a context that made it clear why it was being used.
Just my observations - I'm happy for any students of english usage to set me straight on any of this.

mousey
26/11/2006
11:19:28 PM
what words are acceptable depends on your audience, for example i was teaching a japanese group (70 of them) how to climb & abseil the other day and i called them all a bunch of c**ts, they were fine with that, they just smiled and nodded vigorously. but the same would not be considered respectful in front of chicks & old people. maybe because the audience on here is so varied we could;
a) not swear (not f---en likely)
b) do what RC.com do and have a thing where you select on your account to either 'give it to me straight' or 'filter out all the bad shit'
c) create a pseudo-word dictionary eg. instead of saying 'F*ck you, you dumb f*cking gym-climber c**twipe' could be replaced by 'roger you, you silly sausage rogering gym-climber fannyface' etcetera
i propose the word roger should replace the work f*ck, giney shall refer to any genitalia, pseudo shall forthwith refer to the word SHIT

i also propose that we start trying to use the terms 'cowabunga', 'wow', 'rad-a-licious', & 'super duper' in as many sentences as possible
NEVERCLIMBED32
27/11/2006
2:22:46 PM
Errrrrrr........Roger that Mousey.

vwills
27/11/2006
4:10:52 PM
Calling someone a "c--k" is widely
>accepted. "oh you dick-head" even more so.

Wouldn't most guys consider that a compliment? We all know where their brains reside.

Eduardo Slabofvic
27/11/2006
4:22:43 PM
I find the letter e totally offensive, so therefore it should be removed from all posts.

mousey
27/11/2006
4:25:54 PM
HAHAHAHA
Onsight
27/11/2006
4:28:40 PM
On 27/11/2006 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>I find the letter e totally offensive, so therefore it should be removed
>from all posts.

No worris Duardo...

mousey
27/11/2006
4:29:28 PM
On 27/11/2006 vwills wrote:
>Calling someone a "c--k" is widely
>>accepted. "oh you dick-head" even more so.
>
>Wouldn't most guys consider that a compliment? We all know where their
>brains reside.

im pretty sure mine has a mind of its own, but im not sure id quite take it as a compliment...
Dave C
27/11/2006
4:35:44 PM
On 27/11/2006 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>I find the letter e totally offensive, so therefore it should be removed
>from all posts.

Shouldn't that be:

I find th* l*tt*r * totally off*nsiv*, so th*r*for* it should b* remov*d from all posts.


F***in' h*ll I'v* got too much tim* on my hands this aft*rnoon!

(How's that *duardo?)
kieranl
27/11/2006
5:12:52 PM
Th*s *s g*tt*ng t** s*lly f*r w*rds

Cool Hand Lock
27/11/2006
6:09:48 PM
Let's face it. Women only get offended with men saying c--t. Because they know if they didn't have one, men would throw rocks at them.

vwills
27/11/2006
10:00:44 PM
On 27/11/2006 Cool Hand Lock wrote:
>Let's face it. Women only get offended with men saying c--t. Because they
>know if they didn't have one, men would throw rocks at them.

Mayb*, how*v*r You would hav* to unlock your cool hand from what*v*r part of your anatomy its curr*ntly grasping to pick up a rock to throw.
kieranl
27/11/2006
10:03:09 PM
On 27/11/2006 Cool Hand Lock wrote:
something puerile that shows why women would find the word offensive.
prb
28/11/2006
12:17:28 AM
I don't swear and I don't plan to start, so I'm an outsider looking in on this thread. The view that swearing is OK unless it actually offends anyone is pretty funny.

I vote for free speech for all, but...

From the sentiments above, I suspect that if the c word is dropped too often a fair number of Chockstoners will go elsewhere. Thus, you can say what you want but you'll be saying it to a diminishing number of increasingly like-minded individuals.

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