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Chockstone Forum - General Discussion

General Climbing Discussion

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stupid abseil knots
mikllaw
10/01/2011
5:03:07 PM

for those who worry about undoing the knots, but don't worry about the knots undoing...


The Broken butterfly, perfect for tying in the dark

ajfclark
10/01/2011
5:06:19 PM
You should've used contrasting cords...

IdratherbeclimbingM9
10/01/2011
9:27:15 PM
Why? ~> If mikl is going to abseil perfectly in the dark, he will be lucky to even see his ropes...
Heh, heh, heh.
mikllaw
11/01/2011
8:38:16 AM
the criteria are that the climber should ignore the simple good knots avaiable and come up with something that is almost impossible to tie, that looks wonky, or will never undo

aarond
11/01/2011
8:58:54 AM
why use a knott that can untie when you can sue a fifi hook

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Ute5c2BVk

widewetandslippery
11/01/2011
9:49:03 AM
Believe it or not I can tie one of those things without looking. kieren in the abseil knot thread suggested joining the ropes with a barrel knot first (his suggestion for joining fixed lines). It unties easily, and requires force to cinch it tight in the first place.

or you can tie an overhand knot.....
Olbert
11/01/2011
11:07:04 AM
On 11/01/2011 aarond wrote:
>why use a knott that can untie when you can sue a fifi hook
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Ute5c2BVk
>
>
I dont speak Spanish...but what the hell was that guy doing? Why was he doing that? Why didnt he just attach his rope to the anchor?

ajfclark
11/01/2011
11:07:50 AM
So that he could do a full length abseil and retrieve the rope without having to carry a zipline. Hopefully he doesn't retrieve it when he pauses on a ledge halfway down and accidentally takes too much weight off the rope...

nmonteith
11/01/2011
11:09:48 AM
On 11/01/2011 Olbert wrote:
>I dont speak Spanish...but what the hell was that guy doing? Why was he
>doing that? Why didnt he just attach his rope to the anchor?

It's a (suicidal) method of being able to rap off a 50m pitch with one rope. Once the rope is unweighted - the rubber band springs up and (hopefully) pulls the fifi hook off the bolt and the rope drops down.

ajfclark
11/01/2011
11:10:24 AM
And here's the previous coverage of this: http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=Display&ForumID=1&MessageID=71766&Replies=1

ajfclark
11/01/2011
11:11:45 AM
On 11/01/2011 nmonteith wrote:
>It's a (suicidal) method of being able to rap off a 50m pitch with one
>rope. One the rope is unweighted - the rubber band springs up and (hopefully)
>pulls the fifi hook off the bolt and the rope drops down.

And if it doesn't what do you do next? I wouldn't use this system, but if it didn't work I can't think of any way you could ascend the rope again to check why it didn't release.
mikllaw
11/01/2011
11:55:26 AM
On 11/01/2011 ajfclark wrote:
>> I can't think of any way you could ascend the rope again
>to check why it didn't release.

You're right, but you can always send up your second






ambyeok
11/01/2011
12:12:20 PM
I think you might be developing a knot fetish mikl. Have you considered dabling in bondage? p.s. I am enjoying the stupid abseil knots, keep 'em coming.
kieranl
11/01/2011
12:21:35 PM
is that pen rated?
mikllaw
11/01/2011
1:22:52 PM
On 11/01/2011 kieranl wrote:
>is that pen rated?

-- It's mightier than a sword



I don't know why I'm amused be these, I saw lots f people tying wierd knots and doing things strange ways in the US, unfortunately Australia is a bit more sensible

Macciza
11/01/2011
2:15:33 PM
What about the old 'interrupted sheepshank' . . .



When this gets pulled across an edge it falls apart making the ropes easy to retrieve . .

ambyeok
11/01/2011
3:58:11 PM
On 11/01/2011 mikllaw wrote:


Tie the loose ends of this knot together with a double fishermans and we have a winner.

ambyeok
11/01/2011
4:06:11 PM
It would be remiss of me not to suggest a Korean knot. Wouldn't this just make your dainty little abseil look quite splendidly pretty?


Macciza
11/01/2011
4:17:35 PM
And the half broken butterfly ?. . .


TonyB
12/01/2011
7:16:10 AM
Our hero Bear Grylls had an interesting one called a suicide knot ... I can't remember how he tied it but he cut a loop in it after tieing it. One shake and it comes undone.

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