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For all the people who want to remove this bolts how many have actually been there and done these climbs and not only lhv?
It would seem that people are commenting about stuff they have not seen and are getting mighty uptight about something that may not be as bad as it seems just online. If u feel that uptight about it pull the bolts but do them at 5 am in the morning when no is around to see. I still maintain that doing something with crowbars will look very strange to someone at the lookout, that they may report to the rangers and then the bolting is out in the public domain.
It also might be like royal Robbins back in the day - he went to do the 2nd ascent of a route on el cap with intention of stripping all fixed gear but stopped after p1 or p2 . While these are no el cap until u see and climb them and asses the need or not of the bolts then don't comment.
Ps I have climbed them including many of the pure trad climbs there and if extra bolts were added to peroxide i would be unhappy too but I would get over it.
Ps There is a large difference between rings and carrots and not just in how they are clipped. Work it out for yourself and if u can't then u wouldn't understand the answer.