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Lead fall Hard Rock CBD

evanbb
24/07/2008
8:45:32 AM
On 24/07/2008 OzA wrote:
Vinyl, still think it puts out a much better sound than CD.

In that case you've never heard a good CD player. Nor do you listen to electronic music.
james
24/07/2008
9:03:42 AM
the best electronic music is released on vinyl!! & I do admit vinyl does have a certain warm sound that is missing from CDs but its just not practical to listen to vinyl everyday cause records wear out much faster. Its hard to beat the convenience & transportability of an entire music collection on wallet sized device.

evanbb
24/07/2008
9:09:41 AM
On 24/07/2008 james wrote:
>the best electronic music is released on vinyl!!

It used to be, but there seems to be a lot coming straight to CD now as digital mixing equipment improves. And that's the best music, not the best reproduction.

'Warmth' is a polite euphemism for 'innacuracy'.

Eduardo Slabofvic
24/07/2008
10:25:54 AM
On 24/07/2008 evanbb wrote:
>coming straight to CD now as
>digital mixing equipment improves.

What's a CD?

Zebedee
24/07/2008
1:23:18 PM
On 24/07/2008 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>On 24/07/2008 evanbb wrote:
>>coming straight to CD now as
>>digital mixing equipment improves.
>
>What's a CD?
Certificates of Deposit CD: Once you've grown your liquid savings account to create your emergency fund, you should consider a longer-term investment that has a higher yield. One of the most common fixed-income investments is a CD. There are also penalties you might incur if you cash in the CD before its maturity date. There are advantages and disadvantages to the most common CDs: traditional, bump-up, liquid, zero-coupon, callable, brokerage and high-yield.
j_d
24/07/2008
1:42:07 PM
>On 24/07/2008 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>>On 24/07/2008 evanbb wrote:
>>>coming straight to CD now as
>>>digital mixing equipment improves.
>>
>>What's a CD?


"cd" is a command line command to change the current working directory in operating systems such as Unix, DOS, OS/2 and Windows. It is also available for use in shell scripts and batch files.


OzA
24/07/2008
3:16:21 PM
>On 24/07/2008 evanbb wrote:
>>>>coming straight to CD now as
>>>>digital mixing equipment improves.
>>>
>>>What's a CD?

Always thought a CD was a C#%t of a Descent.

Chuck Norris
24/07/2008
6:20:49 PM
I've never understood why anyone would go out of their way to lead climb in a gym. I mean there are
topropes on everything why not just use them? I'll concede that a few of the very steep walls are better
lead. But...i mean....christ you are just pulling on plastic.

The most perverse thing i've seen recently is the person...top roping whilst dragging up a rope that they
are not getting belayed on despite clipping every draw on the way. sorry but LOSER. If you have a
reason why there is any value in that i'd love to hear...but please don't give me "practice clipping"

Grumpy arsehole shit aside..we have got sidetracked and i do hope the unfortunate belayer a swift
recovery

Sabu
24/07/2008
9:41:24 PM
On 24/07/2008 stugang wrote:
>The most perverse thing i've seen recently is the person...top roping
>whilst dragging up a rope that they
>are not getting belayed on despite clipping every draw on the way. sorry
>but LOSER. If you have a
>reason why there is any value in that i'd love to hear...but please don't
>give me "practice clipping"
how else are you going to learn safely? Of course there is the 'jump in the deep end' approach but some may not take a liking to that in a gym (owners especially).

Chuck Norris
24/07/2008
10:05:49 PM
On 24/07/2008 Sabu wrote:

>how else are you going to learn safely?

Learn what...tie a figure 8?

kezza
24/07/2008
10:21:11 PM
This is a possible hijack. (like this thread needs another?)
But does anyone know any details of the lead fall last night at HR? I've only heard 2nd hand info but 6mt fall on his bottom and lots of rope burn for the trusty belayer. - Could of been a lot worse, but how can this be happening? 2 in a week, is this a record?
-Hijack over-
Paul
24/07/2008
11:03:08 PM
On 24/07/2008 stugang wrote:

>The most perverse thing i've seen recently is the person...top roping
>whilst dragging up a rope that they
>are not getting belayed on despite clipping every draw on the way. sorry
>but LOSER. If you have a
>reason why there is any value in that i'd love to hear...but please don't
>give me "practice clipping"

That is a bit harsh to use the term "LOSER" to describe beginers who are learning.

Gyms won't let you lead untill you are competent, how do you gain this competence without practising? top rope backup. You could learn through experiential learning, but then there would probably be a lot more people who hit the deck from back clipping. When I teach people to lead I always start them with with a top rope back up to begin with. It alows them to focus on the actual clipping with out the risk / fear of taking a fall. I have seen a lot of beginers stick their fingers through the gate of the karabiner while clipping a quick draw, getting a finger stuck in the gate of a quickdraw would be a lot worse when not on a top rope.

Chuck Norris
24/07/2008
11:27:16 PM
On 24/07/2008 Paul wrote:
>
>
>That is a bit harsh to use the term "LOSER" to describe beginers who are
>learning.
>

A bit harsh i agree and sincere apologies...but WTF do you learn from leading in a gym...

kezza
24/07/2008
11:37:31 PM
Apparently not enough with the number of accidents Hard Rock CBD have racked up in the last week!

ajfclark
25/07/2008
7:54:29 AM
On 24/07/2008 stugang wrote:
>A bit harsh i agree and sincere apologies...but WTF do you learn from leading in a gym...

What it's like to be above a draw maybe? To me the headspace is totally different than when I'm on toprope...
suprok
25/07/2008
8:09:44 AM
>A bit harsh i agree and sincere apologies...but WTF do you learn from leading in a gym...

- clipping practice
- rope/leg placement practice
- getting comfortable falling above your gear
- it's a different headspace as ajfclark said
- it's the only way to do the cloud climbs (roof thing) at Altona
daave
25/07/2008
8:26:48 AM
Also I find that even though the draws are already up there, the extra amount of time spent hanging and clipping just further helps to prepare for outdoors.
Paul
25/07/2008
9:58:30 AM
On 24/07/2008 stugang wrote:
>On 24/07/2008 Paul wrote:
>>
>>
>>That is a bit harsh to use the term "LOSER" to describe beginers who
>are
>>learning.
>>
>
>A bit harsh i agree and sincere apologies...but WTF do you learn from
>leading in a gym...
>

Endurance, clipping technique, stamina, strength, how to fall safely, getting confident leading without the risk of pro failing when you fall, the dangers of Z clipping and back clipping and the ability to be thick skinned in order to cope with people who make stupid coments like yours.

Sabu
25/07/2008
10:10:20 AM
On 24/07/2008 stugang wrote:
>On 24/07/2008 Sabu wrote:
>
>>how else are you going to learn safely?
>
>Learn what...tie a figure 8?
Useless unless you know how to clip your pro!!

tnd
25/07/2008
11:13:21 AM
On 25/07/2008 Paul wrote:
>Endurance, clipping technique, stamina, strength...

Endurance, stamina and strength can all be learned on top rope. Clipping technique should be learned standing on the ground with a draw hanging on a wall. Both hands, both ways, over and over until the movements are automatic. Then start leading!

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