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Fall in the Gramps - 14 May 07

Garrath
14/05/2007
5:05:37 PM
ABC radio just reported that a German climber has had a 10m fall climbing in the Gramps. Anyone have anything further to add?

nmonteith
14/05/2007
5:13:41 PM
There is at least 15 Germans up at Stapylton at the moment. They were swarming over Taipan
yesterday....
kieranl
14/05/2007
7:36:17 PM
WIN TV news reported that the accident was on the Wall of Fools and the climber was flown to Melbourne with "serious head injuries". The news report said something abut a foot and gear, wasn't clear what what they meant, maybe foot caught in gear, who knows with news reporting.
However it sounds a serious accident and we can only hope that things are better than as reported.
kieranl
14/05/2007
8:48:08 PM
Just heard a rehash of the local news so some clarifications.
The climber is reported to be a 27-yo German Tourist.
The strange comment about foot and gear was : fell 15m "when his foot protection dislodged".
No update on climber's condition

neats
14/05/2007
9:52:14 PM
On 14/05/2007 kieranl wrote:

>The strange comment about foot and gear was : fell 15m "when his foot
>protection dislodged".

That sounds pretty dodge...but clarification is required.

DaCrux
14/05/2007
9:53:54 PM
Rock climber in hospital after cliff fall
A German man is being treated in a Melbourne hospital after falling down a cliff in the Grampians, in western Victoria.

Police say the 27-year-old was rock climbing with friends in the Hollow Mountain area when he fell more than 10 metres down the cliff face.

He suffered head injuries and was flown to the Alfred Hospital, where he is in a critical condition

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200705/s1922720.htm

IdratherbeclimbingM9
15/05/2007
10:02:58 AM
Hearing of these incidents is bad news.
It happens too easily.
I wish the fellow a speedy recovery.

These things inevitably make us wonder whether helmets were/not involved, state of the gear clipped/not etc. In this case the Euro element not matching up with unique aussie items like carrots requiring hangers could also be a factor ...

billk
15/05/2007
12:09:38 PM
On 14/05/2007 DaCrux wrote:
>Police say the 27-year-old was rock climbing with friends in the Hollow
>Mountain area when he fell more than 10 metres down the cliff face.
>

774 news specified the Wall of Fools as the face where the accident occurred.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
15/05/2007
12:31:12 PM
>774 news specified the Wall of Fools as the face where the accident occurred.

It does not surprise me that the media would appreciate the name pun (WOF), with an accident; given their generally sensationalistic-shallow perception of our activities.
Snowball
15/05/2007
1:20:28 PM
On 15/05/2007 M9iswhereitsat wrote:
>
>These things inevitably make us wonder whether helmets were/not involved,
>state of the gear clipped/not etc. In this case the Euro element not matching
>up with unique aussie items like carrots requiring hangers could also be
>a factor?

Little early to be speculating don't you think?

>It does not surprise me that the media would appreciate the name pun (WOF),
> with an accident; given their generally sensationalistic-shallow perception of
>our activities.

Did the accident not happen at the wall of fools? What makes you think they appreciated this in any way, I generally find the ABC to have high morals.

From accounts from people on scene it would appear the person suffered a depressed Occipital fracture.

anthonyk
15/05/2007
1:24:30 PM
On 15/05/2007 Snowball wrote:
>>It does not surprise me that the media would appreciate the name pun
>(WOF),
>> with an accident; given their generally sensationalistic-shallow perception
>of
>>our activities.
>
>Did the accident not happen at the wall of fools? What makes you think
>they appreciated this in any way, I generally find the ABC to have high
>morals.

when was the last time they named the wall someone was climbing at when they had an accident? its always more like "x fell off the summit of mt arapiles", not "x was climbing on tiger wall". of course they've grabbed the name because they like the (tacky) pun.

Breezy
15/05/2007
1:32:04 PM
On 15/05/2007 Snowball wrote:
>On 15/05/2007 M9iswhereitsat wrote:
>>
>>These things inevitably make us wonder whether helmets were/not involved,
>>state of the gear clipped/not etc. In this case the Euro element not
>matching
>>up with unique aussie items like carrots requiring hangers could also
>be
>>a factor?
>
>Little early to be speculating don't you think?
>
>>It does not surprise me that the media would appreciate the name pun
>(WOF),
>> with an accident; given their generally sensationalistic-shallow perception
>of
>>our activities.
>
>Did the accident not happen at the wall of fools? What makes you think
>they appreciated this in any way, I generally find the ABC to have high
>morals.
>
>From accounts from people on scene it would appear the person suffered
>a depressed Occipital fracture.

I dont really understand why you posted.
First you have a go at what others have said, accusing them of speculating (which i guess they are), however you obviously have more info due to this comment;

>From accounts from people on scene it would appear the person suffered
>a depressed Occipital fracture.

so instead of having a go why not let us all in on what you know, that way no one will be speculating.

:)

IdratherbeclimbingM9
15/05/2007
1:35:42 PM
>Little early to be speculating don't you think?

Who is speculating?
I was suggesting that this will perhaps become an inevitable outcome.
I for one would like to see it done in a professional way (eg the Australian Accident Register http://www.accidentregister.info/ ), so that we as a community can learn from it, rather than ghoul over it.

>I generally find the ABC to have high morals.

I also find them to have high journalistic integrity.

... Is the
>774 news
an ABC one?, as I did not hear it.
(I assume 774 is the radio frequency that it was on).

I was too generous* and you are probably right about them not appreciating the pun.
(*heh, heh, heh.)
:P
Snowball
15/05/2007
1:47:28 PM
On 15/05/2007 anthonyk wrote:
>when was the last time they named the wall someone was climbing at when
>they had an accident?

The last 2 accidents that happened on Tiger wall.

billk
15/05/2007
1:47:34 PM
Oh sorry

774 is the Melbourne local ABC radio station.

When I hear "Hollow Mountain Area" I think up the hill a bit from where the Wall of Fools is. We'll have to wait to find out which wall and which climb I guess.

Best wishes to the injured climber and thanks on behalf of all climbers to everybody involved in the rescue.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
15/05/2007
1:50:40 PM
On 15/05/2007 billk wrote:
>Best wishes to the injured climber and thanks on behalf of all climbers
>to everybody involved in the rescue.

Excellent point billk, & I second that.

(Thanks also for the 774 clarification).

IdratherbeclimbingM9
15/05/2007
1:58:45 PM
OK, I am speculating now; (on an earlier comment within a post).
>The strange comment about foot and gear was : fell 15m "when his foot
>protection dislodged".

>That sounds pretty dodge...but clarification is required.

Injured climber may have been aid climbing ?

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Post edit in an attempt at levity.
Re
>perception of our activities.

On 14 May 2007 BigMike wrote (then deleted);
>If so, they're just reflecting community standards. Most people think climbers are fools.

Maybe it is time we assisted correcting this by naming new Walls to something like 'Encyclopaedia Wall'; and climb names to something like ‘Sanctuary from Society Sillyness’ or ‘Cadre of Intellectuals’!
kieranl
15/05/2007
2:40:52 PM
On 15/05/2007 M9iswhereitsat wrote:
>OK, I am speculating now; (on an earlier comment within a post).
>>The strange comment about foot and gear was : fell 15m "when his foot
>>protection dislodged".
>
>>That sounds pretty dodge...but clarification is required.
>
>Injured climber may have been aid climbing ?
It's fairly obvious that it was written by someone who didn't understand what they were writing about. I think it's best not to speculate on these things.
Bob Saki
15/05/2007
3:16:14 PM
best not to speculate but it's just part of human nature.


tnd
15/05/2007
3:41:33 PM
Uninformed speculation...that is what web forums are for... ;-)

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