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Eduardo Slabofvic
11:51:32 AM
The other place to check out is Ko Ya Noi (not sure of the spelling of that - ask the guys at Lao Liang for details). I didn't go there, but its supposed to have 100 or so routes, with the potential for a few more. Also there are routes to do around Ao Nang, but just not on the beach.

12:33:16 PM
Australia is the ONLY place that uses removable hangers. New Zealanders dabbled with it in the 80s but it seems they have got rid of them all now. Occasionally on aid routes at places like Yosemite you'll find hangerless rivets, but they are usually tiny and require a rivet hanger (sort of like a mini wire) that loops over the 6mm heads.

1:38:21 PM
We were on Lao Liang for the first week the island opened for tourist. BTW it is beautiful. There were 6 of
us who arrived together and we ended up becoming good friends in the few days together and climbed
together every day. One fellow and American hadnt brought rope or gear just his harness and shoes and
he managed to climb there and Tonsai every day. There were another half dozen climbers who arrived on
the island when I left as being as you are all living so close, finding someone to climb with is super easy.
dindnt do any DWS as too busy roped climbing with my new friends. When I work out the link will forward
site that one of them has posted photo's too. By chance she was a professional photographer!
So in simple answer to your question do not fear going alone as you will meet people and climb till you
can climb no more. Enjoy
9:15:09 PM
Ed, Doc, anyone who knows: how is Koh Lao Liang for kids (toddlers)?

10:15:30 PM
Hey, headed to Ton sai in early may ($550 from syd-pkt until tomoz)
Is there just the one Tent-resort place to stay on LaoLaing, or is it similar to ton sai with a few different places?
Is it possible to just rock up and book a tent for a few nights, or is it best booked previously?
what else is there to do on Lao Liang, ie is the snorkeling only good at high tide, how far is the walk accross the reef at low tide etc...

9:56:15 AM
As far as toddlers on Lao Liang, no problem as long as you keep a good eye on them as it is an island
surrounded by water and no kiddy fencing! A couple with a young family were there as the same time
as we were and in the end anyone who wasnt climbing sort of ended up playing with the kids, which
included some slack line action.
The tent resort is the only accomodation and i would recommend booking. taking a chance and just
turning up could end in disaster. You could probably sleep on the beach but the mozzies will eat you
as well as the hermet crabs.
We took a boat ride one morning for some of the best snorkelling ever, however these rides are
dependant on availability and desire of the locals to take you. As for other activities there are none but
its amazing how quickly you learn to relax.There is snokelling straigt off the beach and the tide doesnt
go out like in Tonsai where you have to walk across reef. Hope this answers some questions. Doc

Eduardo Slabofvic
10:26:46 AM
It's as Doc described. There were plenty of kids there when I was there ranging from 6 months up to 11 years - no problem. there can be a bit of broken glass on the beach, but only the occasional bit, other wise its really good.

7:52:28 PM
tonsai is fine and totally different to the euo trash to be found on railay!! go and have a blast and make sure you go deep water soloing!!!! ha 18m falls into the see i scared the sh** out of myself but loved every second. ps the pyramid cafe makes the best breki ever!!
8:40:45 AM
thanks guys. Lao Liang sounds great and we had decided to go...but upon further investigation the transfers don't work for us all, dammit. (tight trip, kid wrangling overnighters in random mainland hotels, 2 days lost to travel for only 3 days on the island, etc etc). so its off

instead, can anyone tell me what the go is with phi phi? what are the boat options? can we get a boat there from krabi pier in the arvo after coming straight from the airport? any tip of kid friendly accommodation? or maybe is it best done as a daytrip from railay?

thanks in advance

2:34:51 PM
There is an afternoon boat from Krabi to Phi Phi.

The Viewpoint resort is very nice and quiet as its about a 15 min walk from the centre of Tonsai village. However, it's a steep uphill slog to the cheaper bungalows (fan only) so the most kid friendly option would be to get one of the fancy ones with TV and air con. They are right next to the office and dining room.

It's about a 15-20 min walk from the Viewpoint resort to Tonsai Tower.

If you stay in town you get the very southern Thai combination of thudding music from the nightclubs til the wee small hours, then the call to the faithful from the mosque at the crack of dawn. (BTW: The chao Phi Phi are very proud of their mosque and would love to show you through it.)

5:44:31 PM
we spent a week on phi phi and stayed at the casata which was very nice however you did have to run
the gauntlet in the evening of the bars etc. Closer to the climbing is a resort called phi phi nice beach and
another called sand sea view. both basic bungalow accom but away from the hustle and bustle and also
near the best bit of beach. i loved the climbing at phi phi nothing hard just lots and lots of fun routes.
we went there straight after lao liang and it was all a bit noisy and crazy until we got used to moving
aside for crazy locals on push bikes. i can recommend the best tattooist if you fancy some new ink!

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