On 27/02/2009 widewetandslippery wrote:
>Alpine rockclimbing I've done some hairy abseils that I did not want to
>do at all but did as I had no choice, apart from jumping.
>You never said the pitch had to be in ascent.
but otherwise i agree with WW&S...dodgy raps are scarier than any climbing pitch, esp in the cold and dark of winter