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Toxic Climbing Water Bottles


anthonyk

16-Oct-2007
11:35:09 AM

maybe there is something to the claims about BPA. at least there's some fairly reputable criticisms about it- http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1280330 (and other articles that cite this one). but probably more of a concern for children than nalgene drinking climbers

The Keeper

7-Dec-2007
6:18:36 PM

Mountain Equipment Co-op (MEC) in Canada has just announced it will no longer be stocking these problematic toxic water bottles. MEC is easily the biggest chain of high quality and eco/human friendly outdoor gear in the country with major stores in most major Canadian cities. I would expect that other major players in the outdoor gear game such as Valhalla Pure and Coast Mountain Sports to the follow the MEC lead in the near future.
This is a major policy change as earlier responses to presentations by myself and others had yielded a "circle the bottles' response. I think they quickly realized the glaring discrepancy with corporate environmental ethics and the sale of these items and have brought their walking in line with their talking. Good on them. Might we imagine Pally Pallin lead the response in Aussie?


anthonyk

19-Apr-2008
6:56:30 PM

very interesting, its being looked into further at a government level and may have a national ban in Canada for use in baby bottles- http://www.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/04/19/bpa.ban.ap/index.html


freesolo

20-Apr-2008
4:07:11 AM

i use my old nalgene bottles for piss bottles because i refuse to get out of my tent at 4am to pee.

i use platypus water bottles for climbing cause they are way light when empty (or an old soda bottle for a week or so till it's too mangled)

climberman

20-Apr-2008
10:02:20 AM

Nalgene will stop making their bottles with this stuff according to this article: http://news.smh.com.au/nalgene-to-stop-making-bottles-with-bpa/20080419-277g.html


Eduardo Slabofvic

20-Apr-2008
12:23:57 PM

Polycarbonate roof sky lights also come with the warning not to drink the water callected on a roof that
uses this product due to the bisophenal A.


anthonyk

20-Apr-2008
1:34:54 PM

very interesting. polycarbonate is very common for camping bowls and cups as well, drinking boiled water out of it can't be a good thing to do on a regular basis, i'm sure it would draw out the BPA even faster than when cold. also worth considering when getting boiled drinking water in places like nepal, i was using my nalgene bottles for that.


anthonyk

20-Apr-2008
8:27:52 PM

FYI the release of BPA in boiling water is about 55 times the rate at room temperature, and even higher in acidic liquids like juice or lemon tea.

http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag-w/2008/feb/policy/nl_plasticbottles.html


ajfclark

25-May-2009
1:22:09 PM

More coverage of BPA in drink bottles: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090521141208.htm

tastybigmac

25-May-2009
2:21:02 PM

seriously, who gives a shit. are you going to stop using your mobile because of the radiation and stop eating preservatives and colourings and not use unfiltered water? get over it.


IdratherbeclimbingM9

25-May-2009
2:28:23 PM

>seriously, who gives a shit

... I know some folk who do.

>get over it.

...and now for our next contestant in the life expectancy game!
Spotlight on-
C'mon dowwwn!
(Cheers from audience).
?

;-P


evanbb

25-May-2009
2:35:20 PM

Every day that passes my investment in a good quality lead bottle pays off even more.


IdratherbeclimbingM9

25-May-2009
2:44:37 PM

evanbb wrote;
>Every day that passes my investment in a good quality lead bottle pays off even more.

Did you buy online/import it from USA?

Did you get a better deal from backcountrywastedisposal than $99.98?
How much was freight?
Did customs slug you at this end?

sniggerwithtongueincheek...


ajfclark

25-May-2009
2:55:17 PM

On 25/05/2009 tastybigmac wrote:
>seriously, who gives a shit.

Looking at the previous responses to this thread, I'd say a few people.

>are you going to stop using your mobile because of the radiation and stop eating preservatives and colourings and not use unfiltered water?

No. I'd find that difficult. Not regularly drinking out of a bottle made with BPA seems easily achievable.

grangrump

25-May-2009
4:17:06 PM

On 25/05/2009 evanbb wrote:
>Every day that passes my investment in a good quality lead bottle pays
>off even more.
Yep lead is one of the best ways of screening your drinking water from radiation.
:)


climbingfool

25-May-2009
7:01:06 PM

Life causes cancer; no need to worry about water bottles.


Dutch

25-May-2009
10:18:14 PM

Pretty much all the major reputable polycarb bottle manufacturers their bottles without BPA now. Nalgene, and Camelbak definately, not sure about any of the others.

From what i hear BPA is in pretty much all canned food as well? can anybody comment on this?


evanbb

26-May-2009
6:32:46 AM

The internets certainly think so
More doom and gloom here

Fortunately, living in canberra, almost all my food is organic these days. Yet another reason why you're all going to die, and I will live forever, fit and healthy, ensconsed in the Ivory Tower of the Capital.

tastybigmac

26-May-2009
7:52:16 AM

did you know that natural toxin levels can be much higher in organic produce? again who cares. it still tastes better.


evanbb

26-May-2009
8:55:53 AM

On 26/05/2009 tastybigmac wrote:
>did you know that natural toxin levels can be much higher in organic produce?

I think in this case, 'natural toxins' are the fancy compounds that plants produce that try and prevent other things eating them. This is often the bitter compounds, like anti-oxidants and the like. This is what my wife tells me anyway. So, the 'natural toxin' in mara-ja-bimby is THC, and more of that might be a good thing?

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