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25-Jan-2008 12:43:00 PM
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On 25/01/2008 nmonteith wrote:
>sweet! maybe some free shelves then - like altona?
Some shelves would be good but the thing I still miss most is a clock. Actually, I miss my train home more than a clock...
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25-Jan-2008 12:47:52 PM
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or the parking meter expiring... :-)
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25-Jan-2008 3:44:50 PM
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I reckon that if you can get one of the owners to climb there, after they get one spinner, the whole thing will be sorted out in no time...
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25-Jan-2008 4:12:07 PM
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On 25/01/2008 garbie wrote:
>I reckon that if you can get one of the owners to climb there, after they
>get one spinner, the whole thing will be sorted out in no time...
I heard they were fly-fishers.
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25-Jan-2008 4:27:26 PM
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On 25/01/2008 westie wrote:
>I heard they were fly-fishers.
I heard they use spinners!
Heh, heh, heh.
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25-Jan-2008 5:39:32 PM
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On 25/01/2008 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>On 25/01/2008 westie wrote:
>>I heard they were fly-fishers.
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>I heard they use spinners!
Gold, absolute gold!
Deserves the 'Reply of the Week' Award
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30-Jan-2008 7:17:36 PM
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Far be it for me to stop people slagging off the opposition!
But, my suggestion, for what it's worth, is, be f#$@g grateful that there are silly people like us out there willing to invest millions in climbing gyms, when we could have quite easily bought a McDonald's franchise! or maybe a couple of investment property's.
What if there were less or no gyms in Melbourne - it could happen!
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30-Jan-2008 7:50:20 PM
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On 30/01/2008 Cliffhanger wrote:
>Far be it for me to stop people slagging off the opposition!
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>But, my suggestion, for what it's worth, is, be f#$@g grateful that there
>are silly people like us out there willing to invest millions in climbing
>gyms, when we could have quite easily bought a McDonald's franchise! or
>maybe a couple of investment property's.
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>What if there were less or no gyms in Melbourne - it could happen!
actually with a customer relation attitude like that you probably couldn't have opened a F#$%King
McDonalds franchise....well not at least until you went to McCollege and learnt how to spell the plural
of property.
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30-Jan-2008 8:30:36 PM
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On 30/01/2008 Cliffhanger wrote:
>Far be it for me to stop people slagging off the opposition!
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>But, my suggestion, for what it's worth, is, be f#$@g grateful that there
>are silly people like us out there willing to invest millions in climbing
>gyms, when we could have quite easily bought a McDonald's franchise! or
>maybe a couple of investment property's.
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>What if there were less or no gyms in Melbourne - it could happen!
Running a gym isn't a public service. Clearly there is a demand, or you'd be broke. If you weren't filling it someone else would be.
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30-Jan-2008 10:34:34 PM
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On 30/01/2008 Cliffhanger wrote:
>What if there were less or no gyms in Melbourne - it could happen!
a better excuse to kick off to araps for a very long time.....!
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31-Jan-2008 8:48:47 AM
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On 30/01/2008 Cliffhanger wrote:
be f#$@g grateful
hmmm. Who wrote this? I could offer my PR services to respond in forums such as these for say... a free membership for a period.
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31-Jan-2008 8:50:35 AM
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On 30/01/2008 Cliffhanger wrote:
>But, my suggestion, for what it's worth, is, be f#$@g grateful
by the way, this thread has been viewed over 15,000 times.
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31-Jan-2008 9:12:29 AM
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Climbing gyms are crap.
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31-Jan-2008 9:54:54 AM
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I've climbed at Altona for years & used to occasionally visit the Mill & Flemington back in the day.
Climbed Hardrock CDB for first time last night. I found the routes to be poorly set, under graded & there were far too many spinners. I wouldn't be keen to go back until at least the spinners are fixed - but from reading this thread this has been a long ongoing problem that doesn't seem to be addressed.
Kudos to Hardrock for investing the money into another gym though. It certainly was crowded so they seem to have tapped into the beginner/casual market quite well.
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31-Jan-2008 11:27:23 AM
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On 30/01/2008 Cliffhanger wrote:
>(snip)
>But, my suggestion, for what it's worth, is, be f#$@g grateful that there
>are silly people like us out there willing to invest millions in climbing
>gyms...
Classic! Who wrote this - Basil Fawlty?
Don't mention the war!
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31-Jan-2008 1:31:13 PM
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On 30/01/2008 Cliffhanger wrote:
>Far be it for me to stop people slagging off the opposition!
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>But, my suggestion, for what it's worth, is, be f#$@g grateful that there
>are silly people like us out there willing to invest millions in climbing
>gyms, when we could have quite easily bought a McDonald's franchise! or
>maybe a couple of investment property's.
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>What if there were less or no gyms in Melbourne - it could happen!
Well said!
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31-Jan-2008 1:52:20 PM
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Sarcasm has no place in forums!
Haha.
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31-Jan-2008 1:58:15 PM
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On 31/01/2008 suprok wrote:
>I've climbed at Altona for years & used to occasionally visit the Mill
>& Flemington back in the day.
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>Climbed Hardrock CDB for first time last night. I found the routes to
>be poorly set, under graded & there were far too many spinners. I wouldn't
>be keen to go back until at least the spinners are fixed - but from reading
>this thread this has been a long ongoing problem that doesn't seem to be
>addressed.
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>Kudos to Hardrock for investing the money into another gym though. It
>certainly was crowded so they seem to have tapped into the beginner/casual
>market quite well.
Here here Mark.. I agree. As i mentioned in the other thread.. I was really looking forward to climbing at the hardorck in the city after being OS for two years (and the gym being on the cards for a lot longer than that!) but was sorely disappinted when I climbed there for the first time the other week. i, like you, won't be climbing there until there are properly set routes (and better holds) and something is done about the spinners (get an engineer to look at if it's so bewildering!).
I also agree with your last comment about kudos for them investing in a new gym. As it stands, it's probably fine for beginners and the like and like we've all mentioned, that's where the bread and butter is. However as someone on the other gym thread said about the sydney gym, if you are running a climbing gym, there should be some consideration given to the climbers. Anyway good em, it can only improve from here.
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31-Jan-2008 2:05:36 PM
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On 30/01/2008 Cliffhanger wrote:
>Far be it for me to stop people slagging off the opposition!
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>But, my suggestion, for what it's worth, is, be f#$@g grateful that there
>are silly people like us out there willing to invest millions in climbing
>gyms, when we could have quite easily bought a McDonald's franchise! or
>maybe a couple of investment property's.
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>What if there were less or no gyms in Melbourne - it could happen!
I like your sentiment - we should all feel warm and cozy thinking that everybody should be grateful for our existence.
But in reality, I bet if you got the same personal job satisfaction out of running a Maccas then you would probably be doing that.
Climbing gyms aren't charities. Consumers will always want more for their dollar, and I think being receptive to constructive criticism (I am referring to Hardrock here) is the best way of keeping the paying customer happy and simultaneously minimizing your effort as a SERVICE provider.
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31-Jan-2008 2:14:17 PM
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So Hardrock,
When did you say you were going to address those spinners again?
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