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Pull ups?

kieranl

22-Mar-2007
9:43:41 PM

On 22/03/2007 bomber pro wrote:
>It's a classic pisstake shot, harness under the shorts, rap in clip a bolt,
>and pull the rope out of the shot.
Muki, everyone knows that. That's the joke. You don't have to explain it.

maxdacat

22-Mar-2007
10:10:50 PM

On 22/03/2007 kieranl wrote:
>>Muki, everyone knows that. That's the joke. You don't have to explain
>it.

ok..ta....i seem to remember something about it :o

maadness

23-Mar-2007
11:21:21 AM

by keeping ya feet on the floor ( or ya toes if your abit short) use your fingers to pull up (open hand to crimp) a percentage of body weight that you feel comfortable with. low impact on the body , and will give you a great forearm pump when you do enough of them. Great for those rainy days.

gfdonc

23-Mar-2007
12:13:58 PM

Back to pull-ups again, I did lots of them in May-June last year, then had to take time off in July-August while my elbows recovered. A simplistic view perhaps but let that serve as a warning.

Instead, use a pull-up bar or hangboard to train your upper abdominals. Do pull-ups with your knees up, thighs parallel to the floor. This will help your climbing more than just pull-ups, plus you'll be able to do less of them (I'm happy with 6 instead of 20 normal pullups) so you'll stress your elbows much less.

Also on a hangboard, bring your lower body upwards so your knees come up between your arms, then slowly back down (make sure your mobile phone isn't in your pocket first!). Eric Horst has a web page describing this exercise, but I couldn't find it (link to his site is below).

See http://www.trainingforclimbing.com/new/articles.shtml
refer "Core Muscle Training" and many others.

wolfgang

23-Mar-2007
3:30:18 PM

thanks, there are some interesting articles there


nmonteith

23-Mar-2007
3:45:01 PM

for all you master Chin-uppers, CRUX will be hosting a chin-up comp at the Australian Climbing Festivel.
The most amount of repetitive chinups without resting wins $400 worth of RISE gym holds.... more
details to come...

dalai

23-Mar-2007
3:47:24 PM

Wolfgang - get yourself up to the Australian Climbing Festival, win the holds and use these on your new woodie you are building!


nmonteith

23-Mar-2007
3:52:13 PM

p.s. - CRUX is not responsible for your medical bills as a result of attempting to win this competition.

dalai

23-Mar-2007
3:56:09 PM

I'm guessing it must be a one arm pullup comp - non preferred arm. Guessing there will be a lot of people signing in with very poor left hand writting.

Too easy if just the standard two handed pullups...


nmonteith

23-Mar-2007
4:14:13 PM

nope, standard two handed. i don't know how it can be too easy when the most amount wins. I can' t find
a current world record, but i know someone did more than 300 in 1979!!!
http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/IGH/IGH0101/IGH0101f.pdf

dalai

23-Mar-2007
4:17:48 PM

On 23/03/2007 nmonteith wrote:
>nope, standard two handed. i don't know how it can be too easy when the
>most amount wins. I can' t find
>a current world record, but i know someone did more than 300 in 1979!!!
>
>http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/IGH/IGH0101/IGH0101f.pdf

Could you imagine how boring it will be when each of the 50 competitors are cranking out 200+ pullups each!

Will they be going concurrently on multiple pull up bars or one at a time?


nmonteith

23-Mar-2007
4:22:41 PM

how many people do you know who can crank out that many? i never imagined there would be 50 people
being able to do 200 each!

take!

23-Mar-2007
4:57:41 PM

Pull-ups?
It really depends how often you climb and where you are in you 'career' or development as a climber. For an absolute beginner with little strength in pulling movements then it could help get a bit of strength and proprioception advantage in hauling yourself upwards.
If you are a seasoned climbing bum who gets to climb every day or evey second day then you wouldn't gain much from it but aches and pains.
Others would say that building power as a beginner can make you miss out on learning climbing finesse, as you will power through problems. This can pose problems later on when you need power AND finesse.
If you only get to climb on weekends and do nothing else then why not do a heavy workout of weighted chins and weighted parallel bar dips during the week for building power. Follow the usual rules, listen to your body and be safe. But only do this if gross shoulder girdle and upper body weakness is holding you back. As said earlier, its better than sitting on the couch watching TV - but don't overtrain and get hurt. I would NOT do chins every day. Depending on your volume and intensity (amount of tension you are generating in muscles and joint tissues), I wouldn't do more than twice a week of heavy resistance training. Even then only train like this for a couple of months before focussing on a different training cycle, say power endurance. A cheap way to wake up some hand endurance is to pick up a house brick in each hand (pinch grip) and go for a long walk. Time how long you go before dropping them and try to improve it. No more than twice a week and never if youre climbing every other day.

Better still go do a couple of Ashtanga yoga classes a week at a proper yoga school (not f@*king 'Fitness Last' or similar). I think this is better cross training than throwing weights around and has other benefits. Note that the yoga sequences are push movements, core training and flexibility... a good combination when used with normal climbing movements.

There are ways to train for climbing if you don't have access to rock or climbing facilities every other day. Just remember different things work for different people and for different goals.

Hope this helps. Don't hurt yourself!

Disclaimer: i'm not a world champion climber so info is being passed on for what its worth, I probably have different goals to you.

23-Mar-2007
8:17:42 PM

Specificity dudes - "the more specific a training activity is to a given sport...the more it will contribute to increasing performance in that sport." Training for Climbing, Eric J. Horst. Eric, that crazy guy, offers a whole variety of pull-up type activities; frenchies, pull-up intervals, loaded pull-ups, etc. This book is great - I did 150 chin-ups this morning.

And then I woke up.


mousey

24-Mar-2007
1:07:51 PM

i busted out like 55 yesterday but i cant climb for shite. now im going to get greasy chicken and gatorade.

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