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Memorials / Plaques


davetheyounger

10-Nov-2006
3:34:26 PM

On the topic of memorials we were at Ben Cairn today and there was a bunch of flowers on the railing just like at a fatal road accident. Did anything happen?

lacto

10-Nov-2006
4:26:19 PM

the plaque at sugarloaf was for the three johns i believe and there was also a hut in nz at the back of cook village named for them (blown away in late 70s early 80 with the loss of several people) The cleve cole hut and derrick refuge hut were both memorials to people which dont attract criticism . Mumc hut on feathertop has been critcised for its visibilty but not for being there . A statue was erected on the ridge near feathertop summit but was blown up by somebody who didnt want it there the remanents are still there today and along the ridge there is a plaque to a railways horse small and hard to find though i have seen photographs of it . Trouble is memorials like the mumc hut are difficult to accessfor most people . i helped a 70 ish man over the razorback when a memorial plaque was placed there for his son really thought it would be the end of him but he survived . unfortunately this hut isthe memorial to several of my friends who i climbed and walked with and i think is a very appropriate memorial to those people

gfdonc

10-Nov-2006
4:32:56 PM

Hmm. You've just reminded me - had slipped my mind - that I was once responsible for erecting one of these plaques. Not on a cliff however, the one in the MUMC hut.

Precedents aside, I still reckon the windbreak is the way to go ..


manuinthewoods

11-Nov-2006
11:28:10 AM

I like the idea of trees to be planted. After all, the family and friends will remember which tree is the one they planted to comemorate the death.
And other people don't really care about knowing who died where if they don't know the person.

Also there's the "death of a person / birth of a tree" symbolic so it has more significance and poetry than "death of a person / bolting of a plaque"...


Climboholic

11-Nov-2006
2:22:27 PM

On 10/11/2006 ithomas wrote:
>Battle fields are full of memorials. Places of death such as the
>Kokoda Track, Tobruk, Poziers, Gallipoli are almost places of worship;
>often unfortunately to people who don't truly understand what happened
>there.

There is a big difference! These people were KILLED fighting for their country. Most of them didn't want to be there but served out of a sense of duty.

>in my estimation no one who ever died climbing, was doing what they loved.

To state the obvious, falling to their death isn't doing what they loved. But nobody forces us to climb against our will. We know the risks and we accept them.

Climbing is a selfish past time. We do it for our own satisfaction and if a tragedy occurs it is our friends and family that deal with the consequences.


muki

11-Nov-2006
3:33:13 PM

On 11/11/2006 manuinthewoods wrote: "birth of a tree"
I think this is an exellent idea, the area does need to be returned to a more natural
environment,especially since a lot of uneducated folk have been gathering "dead wood" from a local
species of tree that has a dormant cycle in the year that makes it look dead, but gathering of fire wood
from within the park at araps is not on, no matter what the excuse is.this would be a huge benefit to all
visitors to the park as it would make it shadier in summer and more beautiful for all to see and
photograph,the balance of the rock and the landscape it sits in is crucial to our perception of harmony
and beauty, the people left behind are the ones who dedicate shrines to loved ones, it is not the dearly
departed who wish this to happen. and a monument declaring the death of a family member is best
placed in a cemetary, not on the mount. the bomb

patto

11-Nov-2006
11:10:47 PM

On 10/11/2006 lacto wrote:
>Mumc hut on feathertop has been critcised for its visibilty
>but not for being there .
...
>. unfortunately this hut is the memorial to several of my friends who i
>climbed and walked with and i think is a very appropriate memorial to those
>people

On 10/11/2006 gfdonc wrote:
>Hmm. You've just reminded me - had slipped my mind - that I was once responsible
>for erecting one of these plaques. Not on a cliff however, the one in
>the MUMC hut.
>

Being a current member it is nice to see that there are still many old MUMCers around. For a trip down memory lane check out http://www.mumc.org.au/ if you haven't already done so.

:-)


PreferKnitting

13-Nov-2006
12:24:16 PM

Talking about 'inappropriate' plaques. Did anyone read the good weekend on the weekend. There was a photo submission. The photo was taken of white crosses lining a beach. The blurb read that this memorial event ocurs one a year and is removed at the end of hte day. Another approach to memorials at the Pines perhaps?

earwig

13-Nov-2006
2:17:45 PM

On 11/11/2006 manuinthewoods wrote:
>I like the idea of trees to be planted.

Perhaps pine trees at Arpailes and prickle bushes at Cathedrals!


IdratherbeclimbingM9

14-Nov-2006
10:38:42 AM

On 10/11/2006 gfdonc wrote:
>Hmm. You've just reminded me - had slipped my mind - that I was once responsible
>for erecting one of these plaques. Not on a cliff however, the one in
>the MUMC hut.
>
>Precedents aside, I still reckon the windbreak is the way to go ..

Wasn't paying attention at the time, but since he is at 1002 now, it is still recent enough to celebrate ...
Tah daah !
The above post is gfdonc’s 1000th to Chockstone.
3 x cheers; hip, hop freeanaidaswelleh !
Biggrouphugetc.

gfdonc

14-Nov-2006
11:27:50 AM

(sheepishly) Awww, shucks fellas. Thanks. You shouldna gone to all that trouble ...

shaggas

28-Aug-2007
7:38:34 AM

RNM, what makes you think Cookie made an error?

tastybigmac

28-Aug-2007
10:01:44 AM

hopefully it was removed 2 years ago.....

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