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Ask yourself - should marijuana be legalised?

maxots
23/08/2005
8:14:31 PM
I said > "you are an absolute retard if you think you're going to be okay, cos you only smoke joints, and those who smoke bongs are heading for death. Its still THC either way! Im always amazed about the amount of bullshit that surrounds weed culture. "

hammok_climber said "Yeah well thatís just like, your opinion man"

actually well its just like a f---ing scientific fact man!

a > you smoke a joint, THC enters your lungs and is absorbed, you get stoned
or
b > you smoke a joint, THC enters your lungs and is absorbed, you get stoned

some may argue that you get stoned quicker smoking the same amount through bongs than Js, I think the difference is minimal, you still get stoned, you motor skills and coordination are still impaired.

also

"...., generally speaking, you don't "trip" on dope. (Paranoia, occasionally, and psychosis, quite possibly, particularly if you're a heavy teenage smoker, but not tripping in the "All of a sudden, the sky was filled with what looked like giant bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car" sense..."

Good call > whats all this "man im tripping out" shit? why is there so many teenagers running around with stupid ideas about halluncinations on pot. Its a depressant. You get tired, you get relaxed, you may even get ridiculously hungry, you do not have intense visuals, neil put it well when he said "Instead I would have found a comfy couch, some chocolate ice cream and some reggae..."
Kids if you want to trip out, go try shrooms or acid, pots not a real hullucinogen!

And on the hunter S tompson note

>>>Yeah, leave that one to Ethanol.

>>>>>>and BTW Cheesehead
I think you finds it's Ether not ethanol - sorry to be a pedant!

id be pretty surprised if the main source of the bat hullucinations wasnt the "75 pellets of mescaline" and, "5 sheets of high power blotter acid" that they take, the hullucinations coming before the get into the ether in the book (sorry to nitpick) also (i havent taken it) but i was under the impression that ether was more like a depressant/inhalent more similar to huffing purified petrol than anything else???

and finally...
"Hunter S. Thompson's ashes will be blasted from a canon"
I heard he was being blown up by fireworks? either way its a pretty cool way to go.


hammok_climber
23/08/2005
9:46:05 PM
I still believe that smoking a joint has a calmer effect on my mind and body than smoking a bong. That comes from my smoking experience. Maybe you have, I donít know, a different body and different experiences, but thatís ok. Itís not like ill call you names for expressing your opinion or anything.
You are quite correct about the technical term of ĎTHCí and the fact that it is indeed Ďabsorbedí into the lungs (you should have said diffused, it would sound more sciencey).
However there is a small difference. The filter system of a bong is based on water rather than whatever you use on a joint (metcard?) That is a difference that might contribute into the smoker getting more stoned. Then there is the pressure that your lungs have to endure to pull the air through the bong. This is more pressure than usually required in a joint.

But no, itís the same product, therefore you achieve the same result whatever method you take it. Thatís clearly conclusive. Like drinking a beer, or drinking a beer bong, Iím sure itís also a Ďscientific factí that those two products are the same, and therefore will have the same effect.
So I am going to continue to smoke joints, and not smoke bongs.


steph
23/08/2005
9:52:28 PM
All this stuff should be firmly planted into the "Stupidest thing I've ever seen" post where it belongs!

cheesehead
23/08/2005
10:14:29 PM
>>>>>>>and BTW Cheesehead
>I think you finds it's Ether not ethanol - sorry to be a pedant!
>
>id be pretty surprised if the main source of the bat hullucinations wasnt
>the "75 pellets of mescaline" and, "5 sheets of high power blotter acid"

haha, True. I couldn't remember what it was (I'd had a beer), so Ether (what I meant, not ethanol!!) had to do.

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"You make us look like such a butt-head when you do that" - Old Biff

LittleJames
23/08/2005
10:54:38 PM
On 22/08/2005 cheesehead wrote:
>Politically it makes sense (look up the history of DuPont, and cotton
>v hemp growing), but surely that isn't still having effect, unless BB's
>Thought Police are bigger than I thought?

I'm not generally given to flights of anti-government paranoia, but I suspect it's because the political cost of doing a backflip and saying "Oops, we were wrong about dope. Guess we might have been wrong about some other stuff too, like invading Iraq or locking up kids in the desert for the term of their natural lives." would be significantly less than the political cost of letting the drug-related crime continue while the pollies stand about saying, "Tut tut. Wastrels."

LittleJames
23/08/2005
10:57:44 PM
On 23/08/2005 steph wrote:
>All this stuff should be firmly planted into the "Stupidest thing I've
>ever seen" post where it belongs!

There are no stupid posts, only stupid replies.

White Rabbit
24/08/2005
5:44:52 AM
this whole thread is getting out of control......

steph
24/08/2005
9:24:17 AM
On 23/08/2005 LittleJames wrote:
>On 23/08/2005 steph wrote:
>>All this stuff should be firmly planted into the "Stupidest thing I've
>>ever seen" post where it belongs!
>
>There are no stupid posts, only stupid replies.

nah i meant the fact that ppl climb in gyms or even outdoors when under the influence (or complete control) or marijuana...
Fish Boy
24/08/2005
3:29:58 PM
People must be crazy!

IdratherbeclimbingM9
24/08/2005
4:03:47 PM
On 24/08/2005 Fish Boy wrote:
>People must be crazy!
... to be climbers? .. or climbers more so??
Fish Boy
24/08/2005
4:13:38 PM
I think peoples racks should be confiscated if they are found to be "under the influence". It is in the best interests of the sport.

Be safe kids!

sabu
24/08/2005
4:48:03 PM
ok fine i've been proven wrong about the tripp thing, obviously there are ppl out there who've had more experience in the field..!!
Bob Saki
24/08/2005
5:02:44 PM
On 22/08/2005 sabu wrote:
>
>LOL who's seen that simpsons episode when homer uses medicinal pot!!!
>that gotta be one of my favorites!!
>

Do you remember the Tomacco episode Sabu?? (along the same addictive lines as Homers pot tales)
That was a classic
Duncan
24/08/2005
7:08:43 PM
On 24/08/2005 sabu wrote:
>ok fine i've been proven wrong about the tripp thing, obviously there are
>ppl out there who've had more experience in the field..!!
>

Don't let the fact that you know nothing about a topic stop you from commenting on it... oh wait, you don't.

sabu
24/08/2005
8:38:12 PM
On 24/08/2005 Bob Saki wrote:
>Do you remember the Tomacco episode Sabu?? (along the same addictive lines
>as Homers pot tales)
>That was a classic

Hell yea that was great!! but seeing homer high as a kite was hillarious

On 24/08/2005 Duncan wrote:
>Don't let the fact that you know nothing about a topic stop you from commenting
>on it... oh wait, you don't.

it is human to make mistakes, or are u perfect?

J.C.
23/10/2008
3:12:42 PM
On 22/08/2005 Breezy wrote:
>Just to look from the other side of the fence;
>
>first 5.14 onsight - done by a "smoker"
>
>first confirmed 5.15 done by a "smoker"
>
>first v14 + v15 done by a "smoker"
>
>:P

No idea how or why I found this thread...
Anyways I like it so lets bring it back to life, M9 style.
For the record, I am currently thinking of all the climbers or climbing related people I know who don't smoke dope at least occasionally. I can't think of any. Actually I've never seen M9 smoke but he's an aid climber so it goes without saying that his brains are mush.

I'm curious about other drugs in the climbing community and how it has affected your climbing. Let's get over the judgemental thing and just hear experiences!
Personally I've abused the hell out of my body with most things they have a name for & it has been a huge factor in my crap climbing performance (along with my injuries) over the last few years. Fun times, don't regret them, but glad that I'm living a lot healthier now & feeling a lot fitter. I'm not convinced that it made me a dangerous climber, it just made me physically weak and lethargic. I have done dangerous things, sometimes dumb things, but I don't attribute that to drugs. I've climbed, including multipitch soloing, under the influence of different things and felt totally in control. Not in a spaced out 'it'll be fine' way, in a positive & genuinely aware of myself way.

ajfclark
23/10/2008
3:21:59 PM
On 23/10/2008 Josh Caple wrote:
>No idea how or why I found this thread...

No idea how you got somewhere? Must be good gear then...

evanbb
23/10/2008
3:35:27 PM
On 21/08/2005 DaCrux wrote:
>who says smoking dope has no side effects?

No-one has ever said that. And in answer to your first question, posed 3 years ago. Yes, it should be legalised. Preferably before I get home from work today. It's hard breaking the law on a regular basis.

Capt_mulch
23/10/2008
3:36:04 PM
What, is pot illegal??


evanbb
23/10/2008
3:44:03 PM
On 23/10/2008 Josh Caple wrote:
Not in a spaced out 'it'll be fine' way, in a positive & genuinely
>aware of myself way.


I suspect that the last time I popped my shoulder was due to a beer or 2 over lunch 4 hours earlier. Alcohol (how I love you) is a shocking drug for me and climbing. Climbing even a bit tipsy is awful, and hungover is horrific.

I love bouldering stoned. Particularly steep stuff in caves, swinging around upside down. I find it really gets the 'this goes with that' part of my brain working.

Never tried climbing on any of the amphetamines, except sudafed. I reckon acid would be bloody spooky, ditto mushrooms. The stories of acid in the Wolgan development days freaked me out a bit, but different drugs work better worse for different people. I genuinely feel pot balances some parts of my personality and makes me a better person/climber in general, even when not stoned.

I, ahhhh, know a guy who's found some opium recently too. I'll ask him how it affects his bouldering this afternoon.

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