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Clipped bolt plate came off carrot bolt 1-Oct-2013 At 8:51:42 AM ehestigoni

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Thanks for the comments guys.

nmonteith:
They were PFH 90 degree.

harold:
Unfortunately I did not check other biners or how the dynotron came off... It was the end of the day... Getting dark... 40 min walk back to the car... And Although I reckon the carrots were smaller, I wouldn't know the size.

>Still you have to be unlucky because the biner has to be
>in the perfect place to let the plate lift off.

That's what I thought... And I did not think that Dynotrons would have the issue, because if they really do, it's very likely that any other newish BlackDiamond quickdraws will have too.

I've played around trying to remove these draws from other carrots before, and on those carrots I've tried, the dynotrons were pretty good.

Some carrots are even hard to fit the bracket on without the biner, right? (West Face of Mirrorbal has some nice fat carrots like that)

But I guess I have to review my concepts:

mikllaw:
>yep, just about all bolt plates can come off with modern biners.
>It's a well known issue; get used to it

Batey:
>Certainly something of note to the many new climbers out there
> assuming that bolts are "safe". I think there ae many people
> who wouldn't even consider the size of the biners and just clip
> and climb on.
>

Right on... I "assumed" my draws were "average" draws, and so I did not think I had to worry about them on every climb with carrots...

I actually carry a set of different bracket brands and types so that if one does not fit on the carrot, another one will... Wire gates are a big no, and that's pretty evident...

I'll definitely pay more attention when clipping carrots from now on.