Chockstone Forum

      Sponsored By
      ROCK
   HARDWARE

Chockstone Photography

Australian Landscape Prints

Chockstone Forum - Gear Lust / Lost & Found

Rave About Your Rack Please do not post retail SPAM.

Author

Draws taken from Upper Shipley

richo1918

24-Feb-2014
9:33:36 AM

Sunday morning I rocked on down to Upper Shipley for a send shot on the classic "Supercallousfragileextradosage" only to find that all but 3 of my Petzel quickdraws had been taken / removed from the climb.

The top 3 draws had been left but the bottom 9 had been taken. Im hoping that this was merely a mistake and not an act of thievery.

So im looking for assistance from all in recovering my quickdraws. They where last seen on the Friday before which was the 14th ( Valentines Day )

Im not out for blood I would just like my draws back as everyone knows how expensive Petzel quickdraws are.

Please share this around and PM me with any details. Thanks

PS: I ended up sending the route 1st shot.

One Day Hero

24-Feb-2014
9:36:54 AM

At least the Blackheath bogans are a bit more civilised than the Nowra bogans.......if you'd left your draws at South Central, those top ones would have been set on fire :)

Drake

24-Feb-2014
2:21:56 PM

Is it common practice in the bluies to leave draws on a route you're projecting? This is extremely common in many places in the world, but I haven't seen it much in the blues.

(This is an honest question- I support using project draws, as it makes climbing hard sport much more practical)

nmonteith

24-Feb-2014
3:50:29 PM

On 24/02/2014 Drake wrote:
>Is it common practice in the bluies to leave draws on a route you're projecting?
>This is extremely common in many places in the world, but I haven't seen
>it much in the blues.

Yes - it is reasonably common. One problem with leaving quickdraws for weeks at a time is that the quickdraws blow around in the wind - and they scar the rock. This happened badly at Diamond Falls - so there is a loose rule to not leave quickdraws in place at that crag. However - AT NO STAGE should people be removing other peoples quickdraws and not trying to find the owner! That is plain stealing. If you feel you need to remove quickdraws - leave a note on the first bolt and post on Chockstone.

rodw

24-Feb-2014
4:55:27 PM

I agree low act..but on other hand Shipley is very busy and I reckon its pretty self absorbed to leave draws on routes there for any length of time. Your hogging the route or expecting someone to use them and without knowing their history. I personally would just climb something else if it had draws on it, but at a popular crag like Shipley I also wouldn't leave draws on.

One Day Hero

24-Feb-2014
5:19:50 PM

Good point Rod.

I also can't see the sense in leaving draws overnight on the softest 26 there is. Would be way more tempted to just tick the route off then head down to Porter's where the grades actually count :)

maxdacat

24-Feb-2014
6:02:19 PM

People leave and use draws oloads of sport crags so I do think not knowing their history is an issue.

rodw

24-Feb-2014
9:49:34 PM

Just because some people blindly trust fix gear doesn't mean everybody does...sport already has rings placed..you shouldn't need to leave and hang your draws on it as well, especially at a busy crag.

tarjebargheer

24-Feb-2014
10:20:25 PM

Hey Richo.

I am not sure that this is of any help, but I was walking at Shipley in the pouring rain Wednesday the 19., and we noticed that a bunch of Petzl quickdraws was hanging on the top of the access-tree to supercalous. I guess someone wanted to put their own draws on the route; they might have been snatched by someone else from the access-tree after Wednesday?

Hope the investigations work out for you.
Tarje

martym

25-Feb-2014
12:30:36 AM

Leaving gear there for a week? Upper shipley gets a lot of sun - it's summer - your dogbones would get fried - the stitching will fail in no time. If you do get them back, I'd replace the material asap... dodgy practice imo.
I don't know the specific route, but upper shipley's not too hard to rap in from the top - next time collect your draws...
Good luck...

strerror

25-Feb-2014
10:46:16 AM

this is the second post like this in a short period of time. I understand putting draws up to project a hard route, but unless you're going back day after day, it just seems like a recipe for disappointment to be leaving them up any longer, especially at the more busy crags.

There are 11 messages in this topic.