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Most comfortable single tie-in point harness.

climb4U

23-Sep-2011
5:48:01 PM

I'm after a modern belay loop sit style harness but with out the belay loop. I know theses days it's a little bit 80's when belay loop harness are so much nicer for leading at your local gym but if any one has some idea's on the most confortable old school single tie-in point harness please let me know.
here are some for starters the Petzl Aspir looks nice:
Gym Dandy Petzl Aspir (or possibly the Gym)
BD vario speed harness

As long as the loop is at the top basicly so the knot and eight loop is right at the top I'm interested.

Edit: Please if you think it's a silly question just don't reply, people still sell single tie-in point (mainly to gyms I guess). I know single loop harnesses are a minority now but please just don't post unless you have a suggestion for a single tie-in point climbing brand.

Edit: not that there normally sex specific but women style cut preferred.

One Day Hero

23-Sep-2011
6:30:27 PM

Why would you want one of these poxy harnesses? What possible advantage could it have?

climb4U

23-Sep-2011
6:48:54 PM

Certain clothing costumes and dresses warn over the top but I'd rather not go into the detail I just want the most comfort make available as the harness chosen will be use just for regular climbing also.

thanks for the post but could I just have single loop harness choices from now on.

climb4U

24-Sep-2011
1:23:41 AM

I'm versing the Petzl aspire against these:
Camp Opal
Camp Topaz

I'm sure there skinny 95's would be good too but too thin for my liking.

IdratherbeclimbingM9

24-Sep-2011
8:55:37 PM

No matter the brand, or the style, the best thing to do when buying a harness is to be able to try it on, and preferably hang in it for a while.
Most half decent climbing product stores, have a facility in store to allow you to do this, and this tactic soon sorts out the best fit and most comfortable, of any on offer.

If you are buying a harness over the internet, then you are taking your chances with fit and comfort, unless you are simply replacing a known item.

Another option, if comfort is your main criteria, is to buy what is known as a 'big wall' harness, as they are made with extra width and padding for people hanging around in them for extended periods; ... and if the belay loops are not your thing, then simply cut them off!

climb4U

24-Sep-2011
9:46:42 PM

The camp modals I have listed above and the aspire aren't that common to in shops so it will be the web.
Peoples opinion will be all I have to go on and I'm not going to butcher a normal harness to get the result (but I can understand if your out doors and don't have gym instructors to freak out hehe)

One Day Hero

24-Sep-2011
10:16:34 PM

I would have thought that you could take a normal harness, thread a short sling through the bit of the waist loop where the belay-loop attaches, and get an identical result. (this isn't butchering, you can take the sling off to go climbing, put it back on and wear under under the ninja-suit to do your catburglaring)

My first climbing harness was one of the stupid ones you're talking about, it was shit.

widewetandslippery

26-Sep-2011
1:00:14 PM

is the harness for fall protection, ie. you may take a dynamic fall as in general rockclinbing, fall restraint as in using the harness to prevent a fall in the first place or fall arrest, expect if it goes tits up you are factor 2ing?

cruze

26-Sep-2011
1:05:05 PM

On 26/09/2011 widewetandslippery wrote:
>is the harness for fall protection, ie. you may take a dynamic fall as
>in general rockclinbing, fall restraint as in using the harness to prevent
>a fall in the first place or fall arrest, expect if it goes tits up you
>are factor 2ing?

Sounds like the harness is for something kinky in the boudoir. I reckon there would be better groinal access with those single point tie in harnesses.

widewetandslippery

26-Sep-2011
1:16:20 PM

or dropping the body from a height and going for it.....

brendan

26-Sep-2011
2:27:14 PM

http://www.thegearcaster.com/the_gearcaster/2011/07/climbing-shorts-with-built-in-harness.html#more

These would be pretty comfy

climb4U

28-Sep-2011
11:55:28 AM

On 26/09/2011 cruze wrote:
>Sounds like the harness is for something ...
No.

climb4U

28-Sep-2011
12:05:16 PM

On 26/09/2011 brendan wrote:
>http://www.thegearcaster.com/the_gearcaster/2011/07/climbing-shorts-with-built-in-harness.
>tml#more
>
>These would be pretty comfy

Hey cool! Yeah those two loop hole harnesses look good (the one under the pants) although I don't like that most them are the relay scary thin light weight ones (like the camp alp 95).
~~Does anyone know what is the brand/model one that page?~~ Mammut! opps it's blatantly obvious.
Mammut Realization climbing shorts lol

Hmm this article says they won't be in retail till 2012.
I would like to see a pic of them with out the shorts covering them.

climb4U

28-Sep-2011
12:10:30 PM

On 26/09/2011 widewetandslippery wrote:
>is the harness for fall protection, ie. you may take a dynamic fall as
>in general rockclinbing, fall restraint as in using the harness to prevent
>a fall in the first place or fall arrest, expect if it goes tits up you
>are factor 2ing?

Yes.
How do you think the opal would have dynamic strength here? Camp has told me over email it is more comfortable than the topaz.

IdratherbeclimbingM9

28-Sep-2011
12:23:11 PM

On 28/09/2011 climb4U wrote:
>On 26/09/2011 widewetandslippery wrote:
>>is the harness for fall protection, ie. you may take a dynamic fall as
>>in general rockclinbing, fall restraint as in using the harness to prevent
>>a fall in the first place or fall arrest, expect if it goes tits up you
>>are factor 2ing?
>
>Yes.
>How do you think the opal would have dynamic strength here? Camp has told me over email it is more comfortable than the topaz.

You are an uninformed climber if you cannot sort the three scenarios WW&S presented.
Dynamic strength is different to static strength (think nylon climbing rope compared to steel lanyard), and the application use is all-important to your health outcome should you fall, as even if the harness doesn't break, your body will.

All the harnesses you are looking at are strong enough, unless you intend falling twice the height of whatever bit of rope is going to catch that fall, which is the point (in general terms), that your body starts paying the extra price for having fallen.

>Does anyone know what is the brand/model one that page?
It was there, when I looked at the link.

climb4U

28-Sep-2011
12:43:50 PM

Yes it was Mammut (I updated my post). here's the product page.

I know the opal is strong enough to climb in sorry I just mean how would it stack up in terms of pain in a big whipper.

I'd love to know what harness is under that Mammut short. It says it uses mammut Split Webbing technology so it should be comfy for whipers.

ajfclark

28-Sep-2011
12:51:37 PM

I'd like to know if the harness is removable for washing the shorts and inspection of the webbing...

climb4U

28-Sep-2011
2:47:44 PM

I've decided the opal is probably more comfortable than the aspir.
Unless anyone thinks I'm wrong (I'm just going by the perceived padding) this one seems the winner.

White Trash

28-Sep-2011
2:58:47 PM

am sure that one day hero or mebe simey, will gladly help you choose the colour.

climb4U

28-Sep-2011
10:31:18 PM

o goodie I am so thrilled.

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