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Click Up belay device

IronCheff
22/09/2011
10:42:00 AM
I like the look of the “Click up” but never seen one in the flesh. Has anyone used one and want to share their opinion. I’m thinking of getting one.

Intended use Gyms and Trad. For multi pitch climbing I would also have to carry a Sticht plate for double rope raps.

http://www.climbingtechnology.it/en-US/click-up/details.html
citationx
22/09/2011
11:26:55 AM
Is it just me, or is this the most convoluted way of saying "this is a different shaped ATC"? (Maybe it's not what it's saying at all, I don't actually know what this thing does differently - I find it hard to decipher the write up to see what it does..)
I also love how safe it can be: "the CLICK UP allows you to break and lower your partner in complete safety."
Although I don't understand why you'd want to lower your partner in safety. After you've already broken them. If you're going to break them, you might as well just tie off the rope and leave them hanging.
weird.
kieranl
22/09/2011
11:37:24 AM
It certainly sets a new standard in "innovatory" English. It also appears to have done away with that irritating ability an ATC has to abseil on two rope strands.

Sabu
22/09/2011
11:38:46 AM
Meh, looks like the same function as an eddy but without the leaver. I'm not convinced. I hate how the eddy locks if you mess up feeding out the rope in a rush and this looks like its a little harder to release the rope given you have to move you hand to shift the device from being locked.
That aside, personally I don't go for anything that is limited to a single rope. Seems pointless to carry two devices when one can do the job just fine.

Organ Pipe
22/09/2011
11:53:43 AM
"This is the most appreciate feature, as it avoids all several mistakes"

I must have one!

deadbudgy
22/09/2011
11:58:58 AM
On 22/09/2011 Sabu wrote:
> Seems pointless to carry two devices when one can do the job just
>fine.

Completelty agree. Extra weight, extra hassels and more shit to drop when stuffing around.

nmonteith
22/09/2011
12:33:42 PM
On 22/09/2011 Sabu wrote:
>That aside, personally I don't go for anything that is limited to a single
>rope. Seems pointless to carry two devices when one can do the job just
>fine.

You've obviously never spent the hard yards at the belayers end of a mammoth sport dogging session. :-)

Sabu
22/09/2011
1:00:23 PM
No I haven't sold my soul to the sport climbing devil yet!

Seriously though I can definitely see the merits of an autolocker for long dogging belays (done enough of those) but if this is being promoted as a trad belay device, well then to me it just doesn't fit the job description!

ajfclark
22/09/2011
1:41:27 PM
What about Mammut's Smart Alpine? Looks like a similar kind of idea but retains your double rope handling and gives you an autoblocking device as well:
http://www.mammut.ch/en/productDetail/221000970_v_0193/Smart+Alpine+7.5+-+9.5.html

IronCheff
22/09/2011
2:17:04 PM
The Click Up comes in a double rope version as well but it's called an Alpine Up. It has pretty much the same functions as the Mammut Smart.

http://www.climbingtechnology.it/en-US/alpine-up/details.html

The Alpine Up looks quite bulky and being able to use double ropes is not a priority for me. My main interest is the positive catch of a heavier leader in a Gym.
Duncan
22/09/2011
2:17:41 PM
All of the mentioned belay devices are garbage. IronChef, you should buy my Kong Ghost from me. It's a delightful dark green colour too.

runnit
22/09/2011
2:22:07 PM
And similar to this as well http://www.wildcountry.co.uk/products/belay-devices/single-rope-controller/

They use these in my local gym to help keep punters off the deck and I reckon they're a dog to use on TR. Would hate to try belay a leader with one. They feed like crap, but don't full lock like a grigri etc either.
turtlespit
22/09/2011
3:44:31 PM
Review on UKClimbing of assisted-lockers: http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=3498

I've used a clickup with a 9.8mm rope and a 10.5mm rope. Much smoother on the 9.8, and caught somebody taking a decent fall on it.

I think I read it's not rated for trad climbing - something about exerting too much force on the gear, though might be confusing that with another device.

ajfclark
22/09/2011
4:36:28 PM
On 22/09/2011 turtlespit wrote:
>I think I read it's not rated for trad climbing - something about exerting too much force on the gear, though might be confusing that with another device.

Given the website explicitly points out that the Alpine Up has a different mode for trad gear and says the click mode is for bolted routes you're probably right that the click up isn't recommended for trad.

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