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Zepplin Bend ?
Samuel
6/07/2011
8:52:18 AM
Has any one had any experience using a zepplin bend to join two ropes ?
Looks to be a ripper knot, just a little un known. Easy to untie, anti jam, strong etc.
mikllaw
6/07/2011
9:05:55 AM
It's a fiddly pig to tie though, and easy to get wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin_bend

It also seems very soft and I'd worry about it coming loose.
If I had to use it I'd proabaly tie a double, with the loose end ran twice through the "tunnel" created by the two hitches.
All the way with EDK I say
citationx
6/07/2011
9:59:15 AM
HA! I didn't know that the name "EDK" was "well-known"...certainly not enough to be on wikipedia!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_death-knot

Reading through the article the author claims it has many names, as an example "in Australia it is referred to as the 'Mina-Dead knot'."

Never heard that name.. anyone?

sbm
6/07/2011
6:08:12 PM
> It's a fiddly pig to tie though, and easy to get wrong.

It's not any worse than a clove hitch or double fishermans, once you learn the right way making two loops, laying them on top of each other and pushing the tails through.

> It also seems very soft and I'd worry about it coming loose.

Definitely this. The zepplin bend falls apart like wet toilet paper, what with those tails sticking out sideways, it would be a *terrible* way to tie rap ropes. Good for ropes under constant high load that you need to untie afterwards, not at all good for rap ropes being weighted and unweighted and dragged all over the place.

EDK, EDK, EDK. Simple, safe, non-jamming.

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