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Accident on Loboff 5/3/2011 8-Mar-2011 At 10:30:35 AM Gavo

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I agree Wendy, and as I said before.. I am not saying a helmet was the only solution to the problem.

Not in the least. I just said that they see the benefit of wearing a helmet now!

Were he wearing a helmet, his head probably wouldnt have taken the hit it did. That part is clear. Yes he could have done many other things.

I guess that argument could be extended even to what you said before about not even doing little routes with higher danger levels, but then the argument starts to get well and truly off point. I never stated the helmet would have fixed the hand or rib issue. He probably still would have protected his head and injured his hand.

But had he been wearing a helmet, he *probably* would have done less damage to his head (actually, maybe more seeing as the helmet was not buttered).

And regarding the disadvantages of wearing a helmet.. Im not really sold on those. Depends on the helmet I guess but my Elios is comfy, lite, and low-profile enough that I forget Im wearing it. The only issue I have with it (besides looking like an utter knob) is that I sweat alot more wearing it than if I wasnt. Thats my own experience with my own helmet though. To each, his own.

My original statement stands though, those involved will be wearing helmets a hell of a lot more now. And I do not believe it will be detrimental in any way, at any time.

First image that comes to my mind when talking about helmets actually is Ueli Steck in (I think) the Reel Rock Tour 10 where they showed a few years ago I think on Annapurna where rockfall hit him on the head. Ripped his helmet open and he was shaken up. Doubt he would have survived if he wasnt wearing one. EDIT: might have been a fall rather than rockfall. Moot point, he took a hit to the head and the helmet wore the brunt of it.

But I dont think this topic should become a debate on helmets, there are other threads for that.