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Abseiler Dies in Blue Mountains (Hornes Point) |
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30-Dec-2010 1:48:54 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/man-dies-after-falling-down-blue-mountains-cliff-20101230-19au1.html
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30-Dec-2010 1:52:09 PM
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Wow. It's been a crazy weekend in the Bluies... First the accident at Mt Hay, and now this one.
Condolences to the family of the guy & to the people there.
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22-Jan-2011 8:43:10 AM
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There is an obituary to John Kelly in today's (22nd Jan 2011) Sydney Morning Herald.
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24-Jan-2011 1:40:05 PM
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I heard that this occurred on the scary solo down to the rap point above Curtain Call. I belay beginners down here, and have twice left fixed ropes as a handrail, which have twice been removed. Any more information?
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24-Jan-2011 1:43:13 PM
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Talking about dodgy rap anchor locations - that one above Cave Climb at Narrow Neck is another contender for an accident waiting to happen...
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24-Jan-2011 2:16:55 PM
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On 24/01/2011 nmonteith wrote:
>Talking about dodgy rap anchor locations - that one above Cave Climb at
>Narrow Neck is another contender for an accident waiting to happen...
Dodgy structurally or dodgy because it's easy to fall getting to it?
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24-Jan-2011 2:22:13 PM
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On 24/01/2011 climbertron wrote:
>Dodgy structurally or dodgy because it's easy to fall getting to it?
Easy to fall getting to it. You either have to scramble in from the side along a badly eroded clumps of dirt, or downclimb an undercut plate of ironstone with 50m of air below. Either way is far from safe.
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24-Jan-2011 2:47:19 PM
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A mate of mine knew him and although he didn't have exact details and isn't a climber he told me there was a traverse rope in place. Not sure whether it was in situ or the party set it up although they must have had the abseil rope in place as they were down to him immediately after he fell.
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24-Jan-2011 4:15:20 PM
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>Easy to fall getting to it. You either have to scramble in from the side
>along a badly eroded clumps of dirt, or downclimb an undercut plate of
>ironstone with 50m of air below. Either way is far from safe.
I always pucker up getting to this even when attached to a safety line.
Is it possible to leave a fixed line there? Or Bolts to fix a line to. I cant remember whether there are bolts in place above the rap station.
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24-Jan-2011 4:33:17 PM
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On 24/01/2011 hangdog wrote:
>I cant remember whether there are bolts in place above the rap station.
I didn't see any.
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24-Jan-2011 7:37:31 PM
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On 24/01/2011 nmonteith wrote:
>On 24/01/2011 climbertron wrote:
>>Dodgy structurally or dodgy because it's easy to fall getting to it?
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>Easy to fall getting to it. You either have to scramble in from the side
>along a badly eroded clumps of dirt, or downclimb an undercut plate of
>ironstone with 50m of air below. Either way is far from safe.
Yeah I agree, but if you sling a safety line off the gigantic bollard it's not too bad.
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23-Feb-2011 10:30:38 AM
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I know it's been a while but does anyone know the location and circumstances of this accident.
As in was it approaching the curtain call abseil? and was it on the higher approach or a fall off the ledge at the top of the final abseil??
Actually was silly enough to be rigging an abseil off the top ring bolts on the weekend at a stable but precarious stance without clipping in and my partner slipped and bumped me! Luckily i'm the old fat one and didn't fall off.
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25-Jul-2011 1:45:22 PM
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At the bottom of Hocus Pocus slab at Mt Piddington is a memorial to John Skipper Kelly.
It consists of walking poles, erected in the form of a crucifix, and two photos framed with a letter of love and farewell.
Sadly the glass frame of the memorial appears to have been shattered by rockfall, although it is still weatherproof having been placed inside a map case.
It was a poignant reminder of mortality as I wandered past yesterday it on the way to climb Gemini.
Pics here:
http://flic.kr/p/a6LgzP
http://flic.kr/p/a6Lgs4
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26-Jul-2011 8:50:58 AM
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Poignant reminder of mortality versus pile of unnecessary rubbish. Why does our culture feel it necessary to build these memorials in public places?
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26-Jul-2011 10:13:53 AM
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On 26/07/2011 satan wrote:
>Poignant reminder of mortality versus pile of unnecessary rubbish. Why
>does our culture feel it necessary to build these memorials in public places?
Man this is insensitive. Would you feel the same way if it was perhaps your father that died?
Also what do you mean "our culture" I would have thought all cultures in history build memorials in public places.
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26-Jul-2011 10:27:05 AM
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Are the treking poles worth nicking?
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26-Jul-2011 10:30:10 AM
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On 26/07/2011 vonClimb wrote:
>Man this is insensitive. Would you feel the same way if it was perhaps your father that died?
Yup. If it was my dad, it would be my personal thing. No need to tell everyone else about it and mark the spot. I really don't understand the need for piles to mark spots like this. It's not like those close to the person will ever forget.
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26-Jul-2011 10:33:01 AM
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On 26/07/2011 ajfclark wrote:
>On 26/07/2011 vonClimb wrote:
>>Man this is insensitive. Would you feel the same way if it was perhaps
>your father that died?
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>Yup. If it was my dad, it would be my personal thing. No need to tell
>everyone else about it and mark the spot. I really don't understand the
>need for piles to mark spots like this. It's not like those close to the
>person will ever forget.
So whats your opinion on people who leave flowers on roads where people died?
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26-Jul-2011 10:37:05 AM
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litter
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26-Jul-2011 10:46:34 AM
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Some crags in Italy have little cameo portraits of people who have died on the route. I did a route in the Dolomites once that had three rows of little photos stuck to the base of the route, with two spaces left at the end of the bottom row.
Another disconcerting trait is when they put the cameo at the persons high point. So you’re merrily climbing along, then you come across a photo of someone staring at you blankly, yet accusingly. Then you realise that person died on this route right where you are now.
It’s thought provoking.
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