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The 9-Feb-2009 At 12:40:04 PM AndyRicho

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On 9/02/2009 nmonteith wrote:
>I'm just interested to know if you COULD make these bolts work ok in soft
>rock. If you can make them grip with a bit more thought, then it makes
>the Croatians even more negligent. I would think that after bolt 1 didn't
>tighten up properly then you'd start thinking of plan B. It seems crazy
>they they just continued placing more than 40 of these bodgy placements
>and then committed their OWN lives to this mess.

Neil, i don't think you could make these bolts work well in soft rock. With a dyna style bolt it has to reach it's max expansion as the sleeve is held in place by the hanger or the head of the nut, but with these if the sleeve dosen't bite it just won't expand. After feeling how loose they were and how little torque it took to do them up anymore i have NO IDEA what was going through there heads....Bold climber, easy route, just like placing marginal pro????? It's just F&$king illogical how someone could place them then climb past them