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TR The Iliad (16), Sublime Point, Blue Mtns 4-Aug-2013 At 6:58:43 PM PThomson

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M9 - I find your comment kind of redundant.

I mean, I wasn't bothered by the splat-potential of the runout, and I certainly wouldn't wack a bolt in there to protect it. But the fact is that compared to Sweet Dreams, this is a REAL classic (as far as a "climbers climb" at the grade goes), and one dangerous run-out section that will keep most climbers off it (and subsequently probably result in it revegetating without any other repeats) means that this sort of pure trad adventure climbing will remain unknown. You said "It is an interesting phenomena how such routes fall out of the public eye/favour over generational change, only to be later rediscovered...", which is exactly my point in my previous comment.

I agree, not every route should be a "consumer classic", but like Firebug (at 17) this has validity as a trad climbers consumer classic (which, these days, is a rarity in itself).

-Paul