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Speigals Overhang [North Jawbones, Cathedral Range 25-May-2011 At 9:14:22 AM StuckNut

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On 24/05/2011 rolsen1 wrote:

>I also believe that most of our heated discussions around bolts at all
>of these crags will matter little in 50 or so years (possibly Araps will
>hold out a little longer) when most of us are gone and new "locals" have
>different ideas about safety and ethics.
>
>And that doesn't bother me one bit.

I don't know, I think its up to current generations to at least try and set a standard or tradition for future generations. The attitude that we have have no control over the actions of future generations is a bit of a cop out.

A bit of an extreme example, but take that climbing spot on the border of Germany where rock climbing as a recreational activity was originally supposedly started - it has a tradition of using no hard protection at all, just knotted slings, cord and rope in place of chocks and nuts in order to protect the soft rock. Its far from the safest way to climb, but its tradition and it makes the place unique and attractive for that reason - you don't like it go climb elsewhere. That tradition has lasted since the beginning, imagine the original climbers there had the same attitude that oh well, the kids in the future will probably do what they want anyhow, why worry about it?

There is something to be said for setting a tradition, after all it is "Trad" climbing.