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Ravine access 23-Mar-2017 At 11:47:49 AM Access T CliffCare

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On 20/03/2017 jdb wrote:
>Hi Tracey (All),
>
>I had the 'pleasure' of the long, hot and sandy walk into The Ravine on
>Sunday.
>Unfortunately your message is falling on deaf ears. The gate was open
>and there were a couple of cars at/near the track off to The Ravine; not
>to mention one party also camping there. Perhaps for everyone's sake, a
>sign could be erected on or near Olive Plantation Road. It would be a crying
>shame if access to this brilliant sport climbing area is compromised.
>
>My 20 cents worth.
>
>JDB

Hi JDB,

Thanks for taking note of the access notes that are available on all the relevant sites for your walk in to the Ravine. I'm not going to go into a long ramble about the Ravine and it's history as it's on here somewhere and besides Chockstone doesn't like long rambles anymore. In short -

A sign was placed there in early days. It was removed.

Quite a lot of work went into the original negotiations, that involved dealing with some upset park users. Believe me, the outcome was a good one. At some point, climbers
need to take responsibility and accept that their actions could have consequences. If you check the sites for route info, no excuse not to check the access notes. It should go hand in hand. Don't use the excuse that because someone else is doing it, it must be okay. And share the right info.

Deaf ears seems to cover a variety of things that even include seeing gates closed(not Ravine specific, Grampians overall) and deciding to drive around it. And then often, promoting that fact.

Ravine seems to be off the radar now access wise, so people assume it will always be so and act accordingly. That doesn't give me or whoever goes into bat for the community much to go into bat with should the time ever arise.

I will revisit the access notes when I have time but to be honest, there are other sites that are requiring education for ongoing and sustainable climbing, that have previously not had work done on them.

Thanks for your thoughts JDB. It is much appreciated. And actually, this is a bit of a ramble. If you're seeing it, Chockstone has been kind.

Cheers, Tracey