On 3/05/2015 Stuartt wrote:
>Does anyone know if Parks is open for discussion on the closure. I understand
>that the hanging draws are a eyesore and they are easily removed. Removing
>the bolts from the arch without causing any damage is pretty much impossible.
>With regards to the trails, who ever built them seemed to put a lot of
>thought into the process as the approach takes a line only over rock to
>avoid erosions that has hampered a lot of other crags in the mountains.
>It saddens me to see a area closed and saddens me even more that other
>climbers would support it. It would be good to see the area re-opened with
>a few basic rules such as no fixed gear, no fixed lines and a ban on further
>bolting in the area. I am happy to remove the draws and the fixed lines
>for parks if they wish me to do so.
Stuart this seems like the more sensible approach and I'm glad to see many others agree with you also, there is no need for the removal of the bolts that are already in place, I would also help in the removal of any fixed draws and hand lines.
As for the climbs, all the steeper routes are awesome and I question anyone saying otherwise whether they have actually tried them.
I have noticed a dramatic increase in use of this area since the first edition of Michael Keats book was released also many geo caches coming down since roger uploaded it online, there is far too much negativity directed specifically at the climbers here, there is nothing further from the truth in my opinion, I have lost count at the number of dogs I have seen accompanying their owners (who are not climbers).
Surely climbers, walkers, geo caches and all other park users can continue to enjoy this wonderful area.