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VIC Buffalo	The Horn Environs	(General)	The Horn	[ Horn Guide ]

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Bolting at The Horn, Mount Buffalo 28-Feb-2013 At 8:47:02 AM davidn

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Not to completely agree with rolsen1 but this thread does seem to be pretty skewed.

I'll just make the observation that while recent threads in chockstone might suggest otherwise, I'm pretty sure there are many more bolts going up per day than being chopped, and some of them are next to cracks and other protectable features. So I'm not sure Crazyjohn's assertion about traditional climbers controlling the state of cliffs or whether people climb is particularly true, much as some might want it to be; and being naturally cynical I remain of the view that in the long term the minority - bolt choppers cannot win out against the majority - bolt-clippers.

...Before the inevitable flames commence, I climb trad (occasionally, which is about as much as I can say for all my climbing at the moment!) and have never sunk a bolt, which is not to say I wouldn't; in fact I had a drill for just that purpose for a while, but reconsidered.