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Yosemite closures 17-Jun-2012 At 12:27:40 AM Doug

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On 16/06/2012 crazyjohn wrote:

>Yeah right. And maybe we should be thankful that they even "let" us climb
>at all! We should be thankful that we are even alowed to live! Thank you
>Yosemite Ranger's who REALLY care about climbers! Im going to send a thank
>you note for only closing down 24 that is TWENT FOUR camping spots and
>not the entire campground! What heroes they are.
>
Read the report crankyjohn. Now ask yourself what you would do in their situation. And don't blame the Ranger's (sic). It's not them who are responsible for the closures.

A closer look at the map, and consulting the park's page on camping at Camp 4 (http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/camp4.htm) actually reveals that there is a total of 35 sites, not the TWENT FOUR (sic) that you quote.
I can't say if the six removed are amongst that number and that therefore the total is now twenty nine, or whether they have already been subtracted. As Wendy pointed out, there are no numbers 17 to 22 so I suspect it's the latter scenario. That leaves space for 210 campers to occupy Camp 4 at any given time.
I use the term "campers" rather than climbers because it's not the exclusive domain for climbers although it seems that many climbers seem to think they have an exclusive right to this particular bit of Yosemite Valley real estate.

Rather than have an automatic rave against anything you don't like, John, try making a difference. I put you in the same basket as One Dismal Hombre in that you both just want a whinge and will jump at whatever opportunity that presents itself. (On that point, I haven't ever heard either of you say anything positive on this forum. I apologise if I am mistaken in that observation.)

IF you care enough, take up wombly's suggestion and DO something. Start a petition. Go on Supertopo and see if you can activate others to participate. Write to YOUR representatives in Washington (I assume you have retained your U.S. citizenship). Being unhappy at the reduction in the number of sites available is understandable. I think we all feel that way. I care, but probably not as much as you. So, if you get your petition up and running I'll sign it.